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In reply to the discussion: 6'4" 250 lb. Man Rapes Three-year-old Daughter, Judge rules for HIS safety. No rape culture here! [View all]Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)Often, a line is crossed and they lose their supporters, ala Sandusky.
But there are websites - if knowledge is your goal - full of people who explain how the system victimizes many of them further when they report sexual abuse and rape. To pretend that it's some cake walk to report a sex crime is to be completely out of touch with reality.
I would call that the "less-than-sane" option when discussing an issue like rape.
You want to only see that one tree in the forest: the Money Tree. But there are victims all over the country who reported, and ended up like the now five-year-old in our OP. She gets no justice. A very wealthy man is set free to possibly traumatize her again. It happens in the poorest neighborhoods as well, so money most definitely is not the issue. It's the degree to which we minimize this crime that is the issue.
All of the people telling you their stories cannot be making them up. They are out there if you want the truth.
We need a wake up call, but you say no one is sleeping.
For those who want linkies:
Here's a good study on rape myths and their influence on jurors:
http://www.bpp.com/carbon-content-1.0-SNAPSHOT/resources/ECMDocument?contentName=Rape_myths_Dec_2012
Here's a lovely case:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/28/justice/montana-teacher-rape-sentence/
Prosecutors in Billings, Montana are looking for legal standing to fight a 30-day sentence handed down to a teacher who admitted to raping his 14-year-old student.
The girl later took her own life.
She got justice.
Finally, maybe. Except she's dead.:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/19/judge-g-todd-baugh-blaming-rape-victim_n_4814627.html
And then there's the case of Clem; Alabama Man, convicted of raping fourteen-year-old. Justice serves him well as he's free:
An Alabama man who was punished with only probation for three rape convictions in a case involving an underage girl does not have to serve prison time, a state criminal appeals court ruled Friday.
In September, a local jury found Austin Smith Clem, 25, guilty of raping his teenage neighbor three timestwice when she was 14, and once when she was 18.
Clem was convicted on one count of first-degree rape and two counts of second-degree rape. In November, a judge sentenced Clem to a mere three years of probation, touching off a national outcry and prompting Limestone County District Attorney Brian Jones to make a series of legal moves to ensure that Clem would be incarcerated. Friday's order is a response to Jones' second request that the court find that Clem's sentence was illegally lenient.
Under the appeals court's Friday decision, Clem will serve the punishment he was handed by a county judge when he was resentenced December 23five years of probation, and prison time of up to 35 years if he violates the terms of his probation
read more here:
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2014/02/alabama-man-convicted-raping-teenager-prison-time
Yep, really pertectin' those teenage girls from the rapists there.
Yeehaw! That is some sane-ness there. Clem must be like a Rockefeller or something.
And then there's the 120-day sentence in Clarkesville, TN, handed down to a teacher for raping a student. Here's one mom's reaction:
http://www.clarksvilleonline.com/2008/08/11/adult-teacher-rapes-student-lenient-120-day-jail-sentence-infuriates-parent/
Bryan Dale Farmer is a rapist as well as former Tennessee high school teacher and coach. This case, which happened at Northeast High School in Clarksville, was not his 1st conviction, and there have been allegations from at least three different schools and over a dozen girls. He is now a registered sex offender in Tennessee.
After his 120 day sentence, when he has another victim, who will be to blame? Since I have a [minor] daughter, I am especially appalled by this case. Teenagers may act grown up and look grown up, but in many ways they are not adults. Teenage girls are under a lot of pressure to look thin, attractive and sexy. An older man could take advantage of their infatuation and inexperience. Teenagers have had crushes on their teachers for years that is no excuse for a teacher to rape a student.
Id like to express my sympathy to the students and their parents, friends and family who have had to endure this injustice. If youd like to blame the teens or their parents, you are welcome to your opinion. I do not feel blaming the victim is appropriate. However, if you have other information about how this sentence was rendered, or details about this case, the public, including the parents of Tennessee students, would be interested .
Yeppers, those teachers make a boatload. They can just wave their wallets ( or purses, as the case may be ) around and their big money talks.
I could go on and on and on here posting links. I say bombard the thread. If you got 'em, post 'em if you like.