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1. Of course. The point is to trash Obama because we didn't get...

Reply to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Mon Mar 31, 2014, 12:47 AM

Mar 2014

all of our personal ponies.

Or because we're just pissed off and he's as good a target as any.

OTOH, if this is best we could do in 50 years it doesn't say a whole hell of a lot for us.

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Obamacare is the greatest social program this country has seen in 50 years. [View all] Drunken Irishman Mar 2014 OP

Of course. The point is to trash Obama because we didn't get... TreasonousBastard Mar 2014 #1

Since some think it's only about presidential elections, it is beyond the best 'we' could do. n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #7

The Congressional Republicans Jamaal510 Mar 2014 #2

I thought that gubment cheese program was pretty square Brother Buzz Mar 2014 #3

But that's not a cube! it's a rectangle! Oh, and the gubermint still gives out 'commodities.' freshwest Mar 2014 #8

Shhh, I have it on double super secret background.... Brother Buzz Mar 2014 #11

Well... come to think of that, you may be right. I won't tell! Thanks! n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #14

Obama, the capitulating, compromising, weak, ineffectual, warmonger. joshcryer Mar 2014 #4

Hey, that vote's not gonna depress itself! It's hard work! n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #9

"Bush got us out of Iraq" ucrdem Mar 2014 #13

And don't forget that he CALLED HIMSELF a "Moderate Republican!" That's one of my faves!! Number23 Mar 2014 #17

Ask these two.. not the 11th hour Whiners.. Cha Mar 2014 #5

Yes, it is! n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #6

But it's much more fun/rewarding to weaken him and Democrats further. Hoyt Mar 2014 #10

Obamacare isn't a social program AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #12

Of course it's a social program. Drunken Irishman Mar 2014 #19

Social programs do not force people to buy private insurance Art_from_Ark Mar 2014 #23

So, Social Security isn't a social program? Drunken Irishman Mar 2014 #26

Are you buying Social Security from a private, for-profit company? Art_from_Ark Mar 2014 #30

You guys keep changing the definition of what a social program is! Drunken Irishman Mar 2014 #33

You are the ones who are changing the meaning of social programs Art_from_Ark Mar 2014 #44

Yeah it is. Drunken Irishman Mar 2014 #47

So the Medicare prescription drug program and Medicare Advantage would not fit your definition? Hoyt Mar 2014 #53

Some student loans are social programs, others are not Art_from_Ark Mar 2014 #56

Wow, an unsecured loan at 4 to 5% is usurious. What's corrupt is the amount schools charge Hoyt Mar 2014 #57

So you're telling me that even though every other civilized country in the world Art_from_Ark Mar 2014 #60

I really shouldn't have to tell you our Congress was not going to fund the billions needed to build Hoyt Mar 2014 #66

And yes, 4-5% is usurious for a student loan Art_from_Ark Mar 2014 #61

My student loan was 7�, and I was glad to get it. Was still careful how much I borrowed Hoyt Mar 2014 #68

yep RandoLoodie Mar 2014 #58

No, it isn't AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #24

Uh, yes it is... Drunken Irishman Mar 2014 #28

A tax subsidy makes it a social program? progressoid Mar 2014 #73

From your link: ucrdem Mar 2014 #20

Single payer would be a social program AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #27

Your link calls it a social program. nt ucrdem Mar 2014 #29

And the OP calls the whole ACA a social program AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #32

Yes it is. Drunken Irishman Mar 2014 #34

Please show us how AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #38

Your link said as much... Drunken Irishman Mar 2014 #42

Let me guess, Democracy Now? ucrdem Mar 2014 #37

Is Medicare a social program? Drunken Irishman Mar 2014 #31

I signed up for the ACA AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #35

Did you get a subsidy? Drunken Irishman Mar 2014 #36

No AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #39

Do you think the subsidy exists? Drunken Irishman Mar 2014 #40

The oil industry is subsidized AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #41

That's some crappy logic. Drunken Irishman Mar 2014 #43

Yes, very crappy AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #46

Do you consider food stamps a social program? Drunken Irishman Mar 2014 #48

Food stamps are a social program AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #49

So, the NFL = Average Americans now? Drunken Irishman Mar 2014 #50

Wow AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #52

You made the comparison... Drunken Irishman Mar 2014 #71

Wrong. That would be Medicare and Medicaid in 1965 n/t eridani Mar 2014 #15

Which happened how many years ago? Drunken Irishman Mar 2014 #18

49 years ago n/t eridani Mar 2014 #21

Right. I rounded to 50. You knew this... Drunken Irishman Mar 2014 #25

Given that a major chunk of ACA consists of expanding Medicaid-- eridani Mar 2014 #55

I'm not sure I understand why Democratic programs building on Democratic Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #69

Not to mention the Higher Education Act of 1965 Art_from_Ark Mar 2014 #22

No public option. No single payer. No Medicare for all. It's a good start, but not there yet. Nanjing to Seoul Mar 2014 #16

Thank you, rightwing Heritage Foundation, for RepublicanCare. DEMS are rudderless without you??? blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #45

+1 area51 Mar 2014 #51

Buy insurance from a not-for-profit plan, ACA even provides incentives for them. Hoyt Mar 2014 #54

Medicare and Medicaid beat ACA in that time period, clearly without Medicaid Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #59

The denials will be strong, but ProSense Mar 2014 #62

Well, Putin made him do it. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #63

No on both counts demwing Mar 2014 #64

A terrible failure! greatauntoftriplets Mar 2014 #65

If it is a true social program.... NCTraveler Mar 2014 #67

...for big insurance, lol. grahamhgreen Mar 2014 #70

lmfao Drunken Irishman Mar 2014 #72

Yup. $34,721,122.00 for the CEO of United Health Group. progressoid Mar 2014 #74