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In reply to the discussion: E-cigarettes 'should not be marketed as smoking cessation aids' [View all]pnwmom
(110,263 posts)142. Then why don't all states ban the sale to minors, instead of just a handful?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_cigarette#United_States
With an absence of federal regulations, many states and cities have adopted their own e-cigarette regulations, most commonly to prohibit sales to minors, including Maryland, Kentucky, Minnesota, New Jersey, New Hampshire, Tennessee, Utah, Wisconsin, and Colorado. Other states are considering similar legislation.[101]
California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger vetoed a bill that would regulate the sale of electronic cigarettes within the state on grounds that "if adults want to purchase and consume these products with an understanding of the associated health risks, they should be able to do so."[102] Senate Bill 648(Authored by Senator Ellen Corbett), proposed a bill that would classify eCigarettes as tobacco products, thus banning their use wherever smoking was banned. In August 2013, SB648 was shelved for the session, just hours before its hearing in the State Assembly. It has not been determined if Sen Corbett will revise the bill and re-introduce it next year.[103]
New Jersey voted in 2009 to treat the electronic cigarette in the same category as tobacco products by including them under the New Jersey Smoke-Free Air Act, which prohibits smoking in indoor work and public places. Assemblywoman Connie Wagner sponsored the legislation, claiming "that young people who use these things will get hooked on the nicotine and eventually move onto the real thing".[104]
In New Hampshire, the sale of electronic cigarettes to minors is illegal as of July 2010.[105]
Arizona is planning to ban the sale of electronic cigarettes to minors.[106]
In Maryland, sales to minors are banned.[107]
New York State banned the use of e-cigarettes within 100 feet of a public or private school entrance in September 2012, and banned e-cigarette sales to minors starting on 1 January 2013.[108]
On 30 December 2013, New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg signed a bill regulating e-cig usage in the same way as that of normal cigarettes. The bill was signed on his second to last day in office after the council approved regulation. One of the arguments from proponents of the bill was a need for contrast between on one hand claiming usage "safe" and on the other "safer than cigarettes, but still potentially dangerous."[109][110][111]
In Pennsylvania, SB 1055 was introduced by Sen. Tim Solobay in 2013 and would ban sales to minors.[112] That same year physician members of the Pennsylvania Medical Society called upon the state legislature to pass electronic cigarette laws that have safeguards equivalent to existing tobacco laws.[
With an absence of federal regulations, many states and cities have adopted their own e-cigarette regulations, most commonly to prohibit sales to minors, including Maryland, Kentucky, Minnesota, New Jersey, New Hampshire, Tennessee, Utah, Wisconsin, and Colorado. Other states are considering similar legislation.[101]
California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger vetoed a bill that would regulate the sale of electronic cigarettes within the state on grounds that "if adults want to purchase and consume these products with an understanding of the associated health risks, they should be able to do so."[102] Senate Bill 648(Authored by Senator Ellen Corbett), proposed a bill that would classify eCigarettes as tobacco products, thus banning their use wherever smoking was banned. In August 2013, SB648 was shelved for the session, just hours before its hearing in the State Assembly. It has not been determined if Sen Corbett will revise the bill and re-introduce it next year.[103]
New Jersey voted in 2009 to treat the electronic cigarette in the same category as tobacco products by including them under the New Jersey Smoke-Free Air Act, which prohibits smoking in indoor work and public places. Assemblywoman Connie Wagner sponsored the legislation, claiming "that young people who use these things will get hooked on the nicotine and eventually move onto the real thing".[104]
In New Hampshire, the sale of electronic cigarettes to minors is illegal as of July 2010.[105]
Arizona is planning to ban the sale of electronic cigarettes to minors.[106]
In Maryland, sales to minors are banned.[107]
New York State banned the use of e-cigarettes within 100 feet of a public or private school entrance in September 2012, and banned e-cigarette sales to minors starting on 1 January 2013.[108]
On 30 December 2013, New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg signed a bill regulating e-cig usage in the same way as that of normal cigarettes. The bill was signed on his second to last day in office after the council approved regulation. One of the arguments from proponents of the bill was a need for contrast between on one hand claiming usage "safe" and on the other "safer than cigarettes, but still potentially dangerous."[109][110][111]
In Pennsylvania, SB 1055 was introduced by Sen. Tim Solobay in 2013 and would ban sales to minors.[112] That same year physician members of the Pennsylvania Medical Society called upon the state legislature to pass electronic cigarette laws that have safeguards equivalent to existing tobacco laws.[
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Except they won their lawsuit to NOT be classified as a smoking-cessation device. n/t
pnwmom
Mar 2014
#13
so all these folks who have quit smoking by using these devices never really quit smoking?
frylock
Mar 2014
#31
Right. They argued that their product should instead be classified as a tobacco product,
pnwmom
Mar 2014
#44
You're right, and that's what I'm saying. The FDA hasn't deemed e-cigarettes a tobacco product.
pnwmom
Mar 2014
#79
Nicotine IS a drug, so the FDA was on solid ground attempting to regulate these devices.
pnwmom
Mar 2014
#82
Of course nicotine is a drug! Aspirin came from willow bark and it's a drug, too.
pnwmom
Mar 2014
#84
Nicotine is a drug. Period. Cigarettes have given a special exemption from the normal regulations
pnwmom
Mar 2014
#90
Pure nicotine is a drug. And so is nicotine diluted with water to a lower concentration.
pnwmom
Mar 2014
#96
Do you understand that N-joy is one of the biggest and that it's made in China?
pnwmom
Mar 2014
#125
The burden is on you to prove the positive statement you made, not on me to disprove it.
pnwmom
Mar 2014
#131
Kids can buy them in retail stores in many states. They don't have to go online.
pnwmom
Mar 2014
#133
Not a single member of the industry supported the FDA's position, or appealed the judge's decision.
pnwmom
Mar 2014
#45
It is not legal currently to market them as a cessation product. But they are
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2014
#7
wernt you already addicted to nicotine? that is why you smoke cigs for the nicotine right? n/t
Tyhanna
Mar 2014
#57
I've noticed that it's common for SOME people on this site to look down on others who
Revanchist
Mar 2014
#34
Yes, I never smoked in bed...My mother who drank and smoked set two fires in our home
angstlessk
Mar 2014
#53
I used to smoke cigs daily. Now I'll have maybe 1 or two a month at a most since e-cigs.
Kurska
Mar 2014
#25
Well, of course kids who drag on e cigs are going to become nicotine dependent, Captain Obvious
Warpy
Mar 2014
#60
Perfume doesn't release heated nano-particles of metals in vapor streams into the air.
pnwmom
Mar 2014
#114
Breathing in nano-particles of metals is a health issue. So is breathing in nicotine.
pnwmom
Mar 2014
#120
They are successful cessation devices for some. Successful replacements for others.
phleshdef
Mar 2014
#98
I'm glad you are polite about it, but if these things are allowed in shared public spaces
pnwmom
Mar 2014
#102
Then it has gone through the approval process, just like the cigarettes and gum.
pnwmom
Mar 2014
#144
No. I'm an advocate of the FDA, whose job it is to approve of the safety and efficacy
pnwmom
Mar 2014
#148
I"ve never said that. I don't want to be exposed to the off-gas or to have these things
pnwmom
Mar 2014
#136
yeah, you said you wouldn't have a problem with e-cigs that contained no nicotine
fizzgig
Mar 2014
#137