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97. I was told on DU that there no rule of law for the Ruling Class and it is foolish of us to demand

Mon Mar 31, 2014, 10:11 AM

Mar 2014

equal treatment under the law. I was told that no US President will ever be charged with crimes, regardless of how obvious the crimes are.

All I can say about that is, if it's true then this country is not a democracy. If we are at the point where it is accepted that those in power are free to commit whatever crimes they wish, somewhere along the way a coup has taken place without our noticing.

Erdogan, and many of our other allies which include many dictators, apparently have received the same immunity from prosecution from somewhere.

Sad to see him winning that election. But I suppose if the people are not allowed to access the facts about him, what else can people expect.

I don't see outrage over his censoring his people in the Western media though.

At least we know for sure that if there IS an 'incident' involving Turkey giving NATO the excuse they want to go bomb yet another country, we will know where it came from. Just as we know where the 'incidents' that led to other interventions came from now.

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NATO country (Turkey) just caught planning a false flag attack to jumpstart war against Syria [View all] Catherina Mar 2014 OP

Edrogan is one of the biggest promoters of terror in the region. Jesus Malverde Mar 2014 #1

All week long, Turkish media has been carrying stories about a supposed tomb threat by ISIL Catherina Mar 2014 #3

Too bad YouTube wasn't around for all the false-flag ops by US and Isareal in the past. nt kelliekat44 Mar 2014 #79

I think NATO needs to be disbanded, or reduced significantly quinnox Mar 2014 #2

I highly doubt that Turkey is acting in Syria without the ok of a certain more powerful NATO member JVS Mar 2014 #5

See the last 2 excerpts in post 3 and this excerpt Catherina Mar 2014 #8

Turkey denied the United States land access cheapdate Mar 2014 #15

I think the same thing. It's gone way beyond the Atlantic Coast Catherina Mar 2014 #7

I agree. Fuck NATO. Its a relic at this point. quinnox Mar 2014 #9

A dangerous animal desperately seeking a reason to continue existing n/t Catherina Mar 2014 #14

Chomsky strikes at the heart of the matter... 2banon Mar 2014 #66

+1 Gorbachev should have consulted with the native Americans who got the same kind of promises Catherina Mar 2014 #69

Dishonoring treaties and agreements not to mention the contemptible hypocrisy... 2banon Mar 2014 #77

And now the world is pointing out the obvious hypocrisy of our claims. Something that sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #81

Beautiful post but disagree on "not even halfway". We haven't even begun Catherina Mar 2014 #89

NATO has become nothing more that the "Enforcement Arm" of the GLobal Banks and the IMF. bvar22 Mar 2014 #64

+1 You really have to admire the diabolicalness of it. Catherina Mar 2014 #71

and we have the willfully ignorant supporters of these policies in the party that's supposed 2banon Mar 2014 #84

They've gone beyond being parodies in an ever shrinking circle jerk n/t Catherina Mar 2014 #90

+1 [n/t] Maedhros Mar 2014 #78

YAEP nationalize the fed Mar 2014 #4

Read the 2 KOS diaries in post 3. Stupid me, I really thought it was just pre-election censorship Catherina Mar 2014 #10

Recommend!...thanks...hadn't seen this anywhere... KoKo Mar 2014 #6

It's like the Ashton and Nuland tapes. Not getting any exposure by our corrupt MSM Catherina Mar 2014 #12

Exactly...I saw some mumbling on Bloomberg Business about Turkey blocking Twitter KoKo Mar 2014 #24

Same here. This is the most blatant and shameful example I've witnessed n/t Catherina Mar 2014 #73

The neocons in State & Defense are throbbing for war in Syria and Iran Oilwellian Mar 2014 #11

That was one of their goals but I'm not letting neolibs off the hook Catherina Mar 2014 #13

You make a very good point Oilwellian Mar 2014 #16

Well.... McCain was there to represent them. Catherina Mar 2014 #17

Fred Kagan is her husband's brother dreamnightwind Mar 2014 #46

No, not good at all Catherina Mar 2014 #49

Indeed! I appreciate certain metaphors used here. :) 2banon Mar 2014 #85

Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't pick up on that until ur post. +1000 for those metaphors! n/t Catherina Mar 2014 #91

The NYT. Decent report lacking details though Catherina Mar 2014 #18

K & R for another excellent post. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2014 #19

I highly doubt so too. If they had, it would be on he front page of every single paper Catherina Mar 2014 #30

Turkish journalist detained over leak of key Syria meeting dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #20

lists of "suspects", including well-known journalists, are already ready and mass arrests coming Catherina Mar 2014 #31

Kicking for reading later today. Thanks for bringing so much information. It's all important. n/t Judi Lynn Mar 2014 #21

I've been wondering when Erdogan would try to create a distraction. bemildred Mar 2014 #22

K&R woo me with science Mar 2014 #23

kick woo me with science Mar 2014 #25

Im not surprised. darkangel218 Mar 2014 #26

Meanwhile, the US is ratcheting up its own war on Syria Comrade Grumpy Mar 2014 #27

At the same time another NATO country is busted discussing a false flag operation Catherina Mar 2014 #43

Re: Media, missing the story as usual... JackRiddler Mar 2014 #28

Great point. But missing or suppressing? Catherina Mar 2014 #48

I'm shocked I tell you malaise Mar 2014 #29

FOX News (#Fail)): " Jihadist threat against sacred Turkish tomb threatens to widen Syria's war" Catherina Mar 2014 #32

K & R !!! WillyT Mar 2014 #33

(Saturday) Syria Urges UN Probe into Audio Leak of Turkey Plot Catherina Mar 2014 #34

Good catch. I wondering why they started blathering on about that tomb all of a sudden. bemildred Mar 2014 #36

I read comments from many Turkish people who said they never even heard of this tomb Catherina Mar 2014 #39

I knew it was some form of bullshit. bemildred Mar 2014 #41

I agree, they should but they won't Catherina Mar 2014 #52

Good. It looks like Turkey may have its own Snowden doing what's right. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #35

We are all Snowdens now. nt bemildred Mar 2014 #38

In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #40

+1 All political thinking for years past has been vitiated in the same way. Catherina Mar 2014 #53

Erdogan blames the opposition. I'm closer to you. I think a new front in cyberwarfare has opened Catherina Mar 2014 #42

They are going to throw more people and money at the "problem". bemildred Mar 2014 #45

Lol! Catherina Mar 2014 #56

And THAT^ is what it will take to behead the Hydra.... bvar22 Mar 2014 #67

I didn't know Cheney made a direct threat against Wellstone. 2banon Mar 2014 #68

It is all hearsay, bvar22 Mar 2014 #70

wsws: "Turkish officials plan false-flag attacks to create pretext for war with Syria" Catherina Mar 2014 #37

Belgium has a king. Belgium is a member of NATO. Therefore, NATO is to blame! randome Mar 2014 #44

These threads are ProSense Mar 2014 #50

The ditto-heads cackling and congratulating themselves for seeing through the illusion. randome Mar 2014 #51

it's typical conspiracy theory BS JI7 Mar 2014 #58

Basically. joshcryer Mar 2014 #80

Hungary clamping down on media freedom and human rights, report says randome Mar 2014 #47

kick woo me with science Mar 2014 #54

US Dept of State responds:�In terms of the alleged recordings, just aren't going to have any comment Catherina Mar 2014 #55

I guess the State Department doesn't have translators? Lots of people in the US could sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #101

Yeah, if it was Russia, we'd never hear the end of this story. Catherina Mar 2014 #105

US Dept of State, Daily Press Briefing- 'No comment' Catherina Mar 2014 #57

Outstanding report and analysis Catherina 2banon Mar 2014 #59

Thank you. I appreciate your support and the support of the other respected recommenders. Catherina Mar 2014 #62

Reuters: Turkey begins espionage investigation after Syria leak Catherina Mar 2014 #60

So now the MSM is good? ProSense Mar 2014 #61

Shh. She's busy responding to a post by Catherina. randome Mar 2014 #65

Turkey prohibits news coverage, reporting, commentary etc... of the recently released recordings Catherina Mar 2014 #63

Too bad our ally over there cannot censor the World. So they were planning to attack themselves, sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #82

It's sickening. The press complicity is even more sickening Catherina Mar 2014 #93

WOW. bvar22 Mar 2014 #72

Does it? Thank you bvar22. I think it's nice too n/t Catherina Mar 2014 #74

Now that bvar22 mentions it... DireStrike Mar 2014 #87

Between the features to ignore certain posters and auto-trashing threads by keyword Catherina Mar 2014 #92

it's another country, G_j Mar 2014 #99

"Turkey to scrutinise foreign office after espionage leak"... "everyone and everything" Catherina Mar 2014 #75

Looks like they were plotting a CRIME, and they have they have the nerve to ignore what was revealed sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #94

An international crime for which past criminals were hung at Nuremberg Catherina Mar 2014 #96

I was told on DU that there no rule of law for the Ruling Class and it is foolish of us to demand sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #97

Pres Carter wins this one: "�America does not at the moment have a functioning democracy,� Catherina Mar 2014 #103

"Google Says Public DNS Intercepted by ISPs in Turkey" Catherina Mar 2014 #76

Thanks, Obama. nt Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #83

K&R cprise Mar 2014 #86

Turkey violates Greek airspace all the time. Emelina Mar 2014 #88

That's the added bonus n/t Catherina Mar 2014 #95

Erdogan is Turkey's Bush. LuvNewcastle Mar 2014 #98

Yes! ^^This^^ n/t Catherina Mar 2014 #104

Thanks...I posted this story last week and it fell off the table Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #100

Kicking this thread again, bvar22 Mar 2014 #102