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In reply to the discussion: Please take 5 minutes to read an incredible Post [View all]Scuba
(53,475 posts)30. Are you suggesting that no crimes were committed?
https://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/11/14-4
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/bank-of-america-found-liable-for-mortgage-fraud/
If they were found guilty in the civil case, why is there no criminal case?
Why is it illegal to launder drug money, and HSBC gets fined $2B for doing so, but there are no criminal prosecutions?
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/americas/united-states/140121/hsbc-paying-2-billion-drug-money-laundering-cartel
Federal Judge Slams DoJ for Not Prosecuting Wall Street Execs
The "'too big to jail excuse' is mindboggling in what it says about the department's disregard of fundamental legal principles," said Rakoff
A federal judge with a history of slamming the regulatory system issued scathing remarks against the Department of Justice on Tuesday for allowing Wall Street executives to escape criminal prosecutions. Speaking at an event hosted by the New York City Bar Association on Tuesday, U.S. District Judge Jed Rakoff of Manhattan said the DoJ's "unconvincing" excuses for not prosecuting individuals were "technically and morally suspect."
"[Not] a single high level executive has been successfully prosecuted in connection with the recent financial crisis, and given the fact that most of the relevant criminal provisions are governed by a five-year statute of limitations, it appears very likely that none will be," Rakoff said.
While the DoJ has not said that all the top executives are innocent in the lead-up to the financial crisis, it "has offered one or another excuse for not criminally prosecuting themexcuses that, on inspection, appear unconvincing, the Financial Times reports Judge Rakoff as saying.
"Just going after the company," which could lead to deferred prosecutions and nominal fines, is "both technically and morally suspect. It is technically suspect because, under the law, you should not indict or threaten to indict a company unless you can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that some managerial agent of the company committed the alleged crime; and if you can prove that, why not indict the manager?"
The "'too big to jail excuse' is mindboggling in what it says about the department's disregard of fundamental legal principles," said Rakoff
A federal judge with a history of slamming the regulatory system issued scathing remarks against the Department of Justice on Tuesday for allowing Wall Street executives to escape criminal prosecutions. Speaking at an event hosted by the New York City Bar Association on Tuesday, U.S. District Judge Jed Rakoff of Manhattan said the DoJ's "unconvincing" excuses for not prosecuting individuals were "technically and morally suspect."
"[Not] a single high level executive has been successfully prosecuted in connection with the recent financial crisis, and given the fact that most of the relevant criminal provisions are governed by a five-year statute of limitations, it appears very likely that none will be," Rakoff said.
While the DoJ has not said that all the top executives are innocent in the lead-up to the financial crisis, it "has offered one or another excuse for not criminally prosecuting themexcuses that, on inspection, appear unconvincing, the Financial Times reports Judge Rakoff as saying.
"Just going after the company," which could lead to deferred prosecutions and nominal fines, is "both technically and morally suspect. It is technically suspect because, under the law, you should not indict or threaten to indict a company unless you can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that some managerial agent of the company committed the alleged crime; and if you can prove that, why not indict the manager?"
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/bank-of-america-found-liable-for-mortgage-fraud/
Bank of America found liable for mortgage fraud
Bank of America (BAC), accused of lying about the quality of mortgages it passed along to financial firms Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, was found liable for fraud on Wednesday in a civil case the government said captured the frenzied pursuit of profits at all costs just before the economy collapsed in 2008.
Bank of America (BAC), accused of lying about the quality of mortgages it passed along to financial firms Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, was found liable for fraud on Wednesday in a civil case the government said captured the frenzied pursuit of profits at all costs just before the economy collapsed in 2008.
If they were found guilty in the civil case, why is there no criminal case?
Why is it illegal to launder drug money, and HSBC gets fined $2B for doing so, but there are no criminal prosecutions?
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/americas/united-states/140121/hsbc-paying-2-billion-drug-money-laundering-cartel
HSBC is paying $2 billion, or 5 weeks' worth of its profit, to avoid criminal charges in drug cartel laundering case
Under the terms of the deal, the Justice Department agreed to suspend criminal charges against HSBC and its US subsidiary for five years if the bank agreed to pay the penalty.
Under the terms of the deal, the Justice Department agreed to suspend criminal charges against HSBC and its US subsidiary for five years if the bank agreed to pay the penalty.
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CA 21 is not like the others. Valadao reminds me of our Richard Pombo, who was tossed.
NYC_SKP
Mar 2014
#71
I read of a recent poll putting him ahead of Renteria. Maybe he's learned a lesson.
NYC_SKP
Mar 2014
#77
I agree. I care about who CAN get there, and who can get some things done versus
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#118
Or bitch about everything they do so people will vote for the republican next time.
Maraya1969
Mar 2014
#136
I believe law enforcement works for the AG, who works at the pleasure of the President.
Scuba
Mar 2014
#22
The AG works for the President. Obama needs no outside authority to order the AG to enforce the law.
Scuba
Mar 2014
#24
Please don't repost it; DU's storage is stressed enough! But I can't find in there any excuse ...
Scuba
Mar 2014
#40
Any excuse for not criminally prosecuting the laundering of drug money, or is that legal now?
Scuba
Mar 2014
#44
Are you saying that laundering drug money is legal now that Glass-Steagall has been repealed?
Scuba
Mar 2014
#50
I haven't ignored the good he has done. I just want more of it, and less malfeasance.
Scuba
Mar 2014
#79
You're outta control with your hateon Obama supporters. Since you're bragging about putting
Cha
Apr 2014
#165
I could not have said it better! We must be of similar age . . Because I remember the Carter/Reagan
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#45
It wasn't just a "used car salesman". it was a piece of shit used car salesman" and "fuck you mr
Cha
Apr 2014
#166
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Tikki
Mar 2014
#100
"spoiled baby boomers who grew up with color TVs, Sansui stereos, and a new sedan in the garage
WinkyDink
Mar 2014
#66
Well written. To save others the time, here's a summary: "Vote Democrat anyway"
Demo_Chris
Mar 2014
#72
Thank you for reposting this. I, like so many others, missed it the first time around. There has
okaawhatever
Mar 2014
#73
"Not as bad" is piss poor advertising. "Not as bad" is piss poor governance.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Mar 2014
#74
Samplegirl, thank you for a very thoughtful and insightful post. I feel you.
kelliekat44
Mar 2014
#78
Thank you for drawing my attention to one of the best things I've read on DU in a long time....
Rowdyboy
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#80
"I agree with them on everything, except in their futile exercise of voting for third party
nomorenomore08
Apr 2014
#162
Yup. Essentially another "sit down and shut up" post. Which I already read when it was first posted.
Hissyspit
Mar 2014
#144
it was a long winded way of saying liberals should stay in the closet becase
pragmatic_dem
Apr 2014
#154
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pansypoo53219
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#108
false equivalence, demanding a President do the right thing, re: spying, fracking, war, torture, etc
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Mar 2014
#140
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Apr 2014
#153
Yep. And I am not swayed by the meme that "a sliver of success is better than no success at all".
GoneFishin
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#167
The policies of the conservatives in this admin have moved the nation hard right for generations
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#168
I like the post. I can't handle the squabbling family disfunctional dinner table commentary.
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#148