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98. Way too much over-reaction to this

Mon Mar 31, 2014, 01:48 PM

Mar 2014

---calling the prez a "used car salesman" is NOTHING like calling him a "baby killer."

The first thought expresses disillusionment. (And anger--at the constant barrage of feel-good liberal rhetoric we get from a LOT of politicians--rhetoric that never makes it into policy, for whatever reason). Liberal disillusionment with Obama is out there. That is truth.

The other thought expresses Hate. That is untruth.

Dissent has to be allowed without strings, without a lot of urgings to hush up out of fear. No, "they" don't need our help but it's wrong to think that every statement against Obama will sway thousands more against him who are not already against him.

Speaking one's own truth is best at any time. There are plenty who are disillusioned and they need to be heard. This "used car salesman" remark has been blown way out of proportion.

As for our enemies, keep em guessing.

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