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alarimer

(16,245 posts)
81. I generally agree with this
Mon Mar 31, 2014, 05:51 PM
Mar 2014

Except I pretty much refuse to call myself a Democrat anymore, given that so many are milquetoast, wishy-washy, corporate types that I'm ashamed to be in the same group.

Obama is just another politician, not one deserving of a pedestal. No one is. They all LIE to get elected. Every last one of them. We should never believe a single word any of them say. We elect people to do OUR bidding and if they screw up, they're out, Obama most certainly included, whatever excuses they might make for him.

Yes, the Republicans are worse, but they have nothing to do with drone strikes or the TPP. Obama owns that, should it come to pass. And it will make everyone's lives worse, not better. Selling us all out for the corporations, as supposedly "good" Democrats have done time and time again (see NAFTA and Clinton for the gory, rotten details.)

Loyalists are lobbying for a purge 1000words Mar 2014 #1
Isn't that a great way to garner support and votes for the party?? Oilwellian Mar 2014 #7
I long suspected the Party simply humors the left, for the votes. 1000words Mar 2014 #10
We can thank Rahm Emanuel for that - and such open hostility sure... polichick Mar 2014 #12
Your pathetic mewling turns my stomach psiman Mar 2014 #169
Sorry the truth is so hard for you to take... polichick Mar 2014 #170
AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service Zenlitened Mar 2014 #177
It was such an odd remark considering that my post didn't say... polichick Mar 2014 #179
How did 3 jurors let that shit stand? LOL Corruption Inc Apr 2014 #264
I fully agree with this post. You said it so much better than I ever could've. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #180
You agree with "pathetic mewling"? Enthusiast Apr 2014 #209
Far more than that. I think that whiners who attack the Democratic Party, thereby helping the GOP Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #275
I do not like being characterized a whiner. I have never called you a name. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #280
I don't care what you like or do not. If you attack your own and it helps the enemy, Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #281
Your post makes little sense. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #291
I think it makes perfect sense, but you don't like it. Just don't respond when you see my posts Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #292
Just how far do you carry that? Jim Lane Apr 2014 #284
Are you saying that if they're not perfect, you're going to bash them? Is that it? Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #288
If any criticism whatsoever constitutes "bashing", then, yes. Jim Lane Apr 2014 #289
I agree also! Stellar Apr 2014 #214
Pointing out that Rahm's badmouthing of the left didn't help get people to the polls... polichick Apr 2014 #217
And I'd like to point out that Naderites got us 8 years of Bush. Live with it. nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #274
That's one version of the story. polichick Apr 2014 #276
Even if you were correct, it's not a pretty picture. nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #278
This is GD, my friend. Scootaloo Apr 2014 #195
Of course we can't forget that he went grovelling to Sarah Palin JoeyT Apr 2014 #204
Rahm is a stealth Republican nikto Apr 2014 #213
Exactly - like a lot of "Dems." polichick Apr 2014 #218
Rahm's one of the worst though nikto Apr 2014 #290
The choice of a strong authoritarian Rahmbo was a mistake. It told Democrats that were rhett o rick Apr 2014 #229
Right? truebrit71 Mar 2014 #18
Well, they know there's nowhere else for us to go. Warpy Mar 2014 #178
"Holding politicians accountable is a solemn duty." Amen. polichick Mar 2014 #2
"Holding politicians accountable is a solemn duty." Another amen. Scuba Mar 2014 #152
Me too. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #210
That's how I see it. K&R n/t whatchamacallit Mar 2014 #3
Absolutely spot on... truebrit71 Mar 2014 #4
Not only a politician who makes mistakes, jmondine Mar 2014 #5
"when he deserves it, he gets it. "... SidDithers Mar 2014 #6
Politicians.... or the OP? LanternWaste Mar 2014 #9
Well as the saying goes... ljm2002 Mar 2014 #129
Too true. Quite the self-exculpatory quote, wasn't it? nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #181
and for some . . . when he doesn't deserve it, he doesn't get it DrDan Apr 2014 #221
There is no worse heresy than that the office sanctifies the holder of it. Lord Acton Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #8
Thank you. My first vote 840high Mar 2014 #137
It's been many years since I've seen the Democratic party interested in non-conservative voters pragmatic_dem Mar 2014 #139
I try to bring the darkness to light Ichingcarpenter Mar 2014 #11
Sorry, you're still not better than me. randome Mar 2014 #13
Irony WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #14
How the hell is that 'irony'? randome Mar 2014 #16
No, I think he means he's a 'better democrat' because he shits all over the Pres. Whisp Mar 2014 #20
He didnt say he was a "better Democrat", but go ahead and throw gas on the pyre. nm rhett o rick Mar 2014 #146
maybe he did... Whisp Mar 2014 #161
It's getting him noticed. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #182
If you have to ask... WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #22
Inscrutable as always, huh? randome Mar 2014 #24
When you say.... Caretha Apr 2014 #228
This is probably not the thread to rehash these points. randome Apr 2014 #230
Thank you for your reply Caretha Apr 2014 #232
Obviously you dont understand irony. nm rhett o rick Mar 2014 #143
Maybe he means he's a better Dem *than he would be if he didn't raise these issues*? nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #196
'We'd have better luck debating the issues if you would stop debating personalities.' Rex Apr 2014 #203
What few realize is Half-Century Man Mar 2014 #17
So THAT'S who that was! riqster Mar 2014 #34
Only saw him once. Half-Century Man Mar 2014 #57
The assertion itself is pretty interesting Aerows Mar 2014 #67
ROFL, Will, critical thinking is not their strong point Glitterati Mar 2014 #105
LOL 1000words Mar 2014 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Mar 2014 #41
Very, VERY well said Number23 Mar 2014 #113
unRec. Whisp Mar 2014 #19
"I'd support him...if he runs again in '08" ProSense Mar 2014 #21
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Mar 2014 #23
That opening sentence is not a question. JVS Mar 2014 #25
I've never seen where egregious name-calling was conducive to encouraging anyone... Spazito Mar 2014 #26
You are 100% correct. Glitterati Mar 2014 #106
Yes, saying "critical thinking isn't their strong point" is a good example of... Spazito Mar 2014 #111
No moreso than screaming "ODS" and "hater" Glitterati Mar 2014 #114
I gather, then, your first response to me was not a genuine one... Spazito Mar 2014 #118
It was actually sarcasm Glitterati Mar 2014 #123
One might study up on sarcasm, how to use it effectively... Spazito Mar 2014 #126
LOL, whatever Glitterati Mar 2014 #128
Name calling abakan Apr 2014 #272
If "raising hell" makes someone a "better Democrat", JaneyVee Mar 2014 #27
Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #28
"Piece of shit used-car salesman" is unjustified name calling. ProSense Mar 2014 #29
Maybe if your other half were experiencing unnecessary hardship because of the greedy insurance nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #198
Calling a democratic president a piece of shit on a sufrommich Mar 2014 #30
+10000 rudolph the red Mar 2014 #45
A reason? fleabiscuit Mar 2014 #151
+1000 nt freebrew Apr 2014 #240
Exactly! Well Said! n/t sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #245
Thanks for posting this nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #183
"That makes me a very, very good Democrat." MineralMan Mar 2014 #31
So the fact that he voted for the man three times has no bearing... truebrit71 Mar 2014 #36
That is my opinion, yes. MineralMan Mar 2014 #38
You have never insulted people, good people, democrats eg, in your entire life? sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #248
I have never referred to a two-term Democratic President MineralMan Apr 2014 #257
Honestly ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #66
So wait...now we're doubting how he voted?? truebrit71 Mar 2014 #110
And you base your soul staking on what ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #121
...if for no other reason than I've read most of his posts... truebrit71 Mar 2014 #125
I have called him none of that. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #133
I didn't say that YOU said it. n/t truebrit71 Mar 2014 #142
Oh ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #171
I was responding in general... truebrit71 Mar 2014 #172
At any rate ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #174
They've actually called Will worse. marble falls Apr 2014 #224
Like what ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #255
Sorry, all that was just plain wrong. marble falls Apr 2014 #282
Okay. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #283
The troll accusation happens all the time... truebrit71 Apr 2014 #267
Were the accusations calling ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #268
No...it's not an open question at all... truebrit71 Apr 2014 #269
The question ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #270
Looks to me like he thinks a good Democrat is one that stands up for Democratic rhett o rick Mar 2014 #150
Will is a very, very good Democrat. We need more very good Democrats. sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #206
Exactly right again sabrina Caretha Apr 2014 #231
True, although the vast majority of good Democrats would have cringed at the very thought sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #244
+1 truebrit71 Apr 2014 #235
I don't buy it for a minute albino65 Mar 2014 #32
I too am agnostic Deny and Shred Mar 2014 #156
That has to be... Oilwellian Mar 2014 #160
LOL n/t Auntie Bush Mar 2014 #164
Self-awareness really isn't a strength chez Will, is it? BeyondGeography Mar 2014 #33
They work for us, not the other way around. If we don't hold them accountable, who will? Catherina Mar 2014 #35
Don't you know the rules by now? we're only supposed to hold the rethugs accountable.. 2banon Mar 2014 #87
As long as this is Democratic "Underground", I'll have my say lol Catherina Mar 2014 #91
:) 2banon Mar 2014 #96
that one is a fail treestar Mar 2014 #149
Yes, they work for us, but strategy is important, and getting Repukes elected by using their same Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #184
I couldn't agree with you more. Hang in there with us. williesgirl Mar 2014 #37
Better democrats would be those whose criticism is fact-based, reasoned and accurately targeted. riqster Mar 2014 #39
+1 darkangel218 Mar 2014 #43
+1 jeff47 Mar 2014 #71
+1 Hekate Mar 2014 #75
I do not think Will will admit that he was factually incorrect. nt msanthrope Mar 2014 #82
No, apparently the ignorance, profanity and vulgarity was "proof" that he's a better Democrat Number23 Mar 2014 #115
"Proof" is a good word to use. nt msanthrope Mar 2014 #119
Some people on this forum cannot admit to any fault I've noticed. Rex Mar 2014 #138
Agreed. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #185
If this is your way of apologizing for calling the President MicaelS Mar 2014 #40
That was not his intent ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #70
:) Yup! As always. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #186
What Iraq War Vote DallasNE Mar 2014 #42
BS. bvar22 Mar 2014 #168
Here Is The Exact Language Of The Resolution DallasNE Apr 2014 #197
who was left to decider-in-chief what relevant meant? bobduca Apr 2014 #236
And-- yellowwoodII Apr 2014 #225
K&R Bjorn Against Mar 2014 #44
Attributed to many different people: sulphurdunn Mar 2014 #46
DURec! bvar22 Mar 2014 #47
I gave Will's post a recommend... catnhatnh Mar 2014 #55
You just did... bvar22 Mar 2014 #62
+1 woo me with science Mar 2014 #100
+10000 n/t 2banon Mar 2014 #76
+1 n/t Catherina Mar 2014 #92
+10000 woo me with science Mar 2014 #93
+1000 Champion Jack Mar 2014 #102
+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! - K & R !!! WillyT Mar 2014 #130
...^ that 840high Mar 2014 #141
Right there with you, bvar. Zorra Mar 2014 #167
Here: ProSense Mar 2014 #188
+1 a whole bunch! Enthusiast Apr 2014 #211
"'Rec'-within-a-'rec'" for this post alone. bullwinkle428 Apr 2014 #222
Almost everybody at DU except for a few disrupters would agree with those goals. totodeinhere Apr 2014 #250
Unrec. JTFrog Mar 2014 #48
I agree. darkangel218 Mar 2014 #53
Well then. That's that. Raine1967 Mar 2014 #49
+1 n/t JTFrog Mar 2014 #60
+100000000 one_voice Mar 2014 #68
Good post. Thank you for your level-headedness and perspective. nt wiggs Mar 2014 #117
I don't believe it's personal LordGlenconner Apr 2014 #246
Good post. bigwillq Mar 2014 #50
Whatever. Richardo Mar 2014 #51
He does not deserve what you give him. Whisp Mar 2014 #52
Same doubling down and pretending it's noble ProSense Mar 2014 #54
You were out of line but this post is spot on tularetom Mar 2014 #56
+10000000000000000 nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #199
I get your general point, but please, for the love of god Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #58
The car has started down that road. Raine1967 Mar 2014 #64
The irony of course is *ANY* DUer Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #83
A very good point. Raine1967 Mar 2014 #103
Waaaay to late for that. jeff47 Mar 2014 #72
Am I supposed to be trying to be the Best Democrat?? DeadLetterOffice Mar 2014 #145
Thank you for posting. Broward Mar 2014 #59
how are hate filled name calling hopemountain Mar 2014 #61
Fail. yowzayowzayowza Mar 2014 #63
Simple and truth. eom. Raine1967 Mar 2014 #69
Sometimes, you have to set fires in your own camp Generic Other Mar 2014 #65
And sometimes, that incinerates your home. jeff47 Mar 2014 #84
This OP is a call to purge? Seriously, dude. Vattel Mar 2014 #163
When you line up one group as "better", purging is just around the corner. (nt) jeff47 Apr 2014 #277
Keep lighting those matches in the dark. bvar22 Mar 2014 #89
Sometimes a gem sparkles in the mud... fleabiscuit Mar 2014 #99
Well said. zeemike Mar 2014 #166
well said, Generic Other grasswire Apr 2014 #202
Skinner has your measure: msanthrope Mar 2014 #73
+1 n/t tammywammy Mar 2014 #95
That is how I see it too. zeemike Mar 2014 #74
As of now, this thread has 75 replies and 75 Recs. /just sayin. nt Electric Monk Mar 2014 #77
This message was self-deleted by its author Raine1967 Mar 2014 #78
K&R Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #79
Some are just people followers. bvar22 Mar 2014 #131
Hey Will, did you know that in Parallel Universe DU Land.. radiclib Mar 2014 #80
I generally agree with this alarimer Mar 2014 #81
Steeping in the rancid tea of self-satisfied opinions. Ptah Mar 2014 #85
There is a lot to be said about waking in samplegirl Mar 2014 #86
Fine, then come on over Doctor_J Apr 2014 #216
I Have No Problem mrchips Mar 2014 #88
Welcome to DU, mrchips! calimary Apr 2014 #190
Well Said mrchips Apr 2014 #191
Caliing someone a POS is not usualy considered Progressive dog Mar 2014 #90
Huge K&R. woo me with science Mar 2014 #94
I like Obama. He's done some good stuff and yes the pukes fought him on everything. Autumn Mar 2014 #97
That's my thinking too marions ghost Mar 2014 #147
"Politics is not a team sport." What an insipid thought to articulate. idendoit Mar 2014 #98
A lot of I and Me and Ego in this OP. sheshe2 Mar 2014 #101
This needed to be said, Will. LuvNewcastle Mar 2014 #104
Absolutely Agree....and so does Teddy Roosevelt. bvar22 Mar 2014 #132
+1 840high Mar 2014 #144
+100000 woo me with science Mar 2014 #158
+100000000 Perfectly said. woo me with science Mar 2014 #157
Thankyou. Protesting policy is not the same as condemning him. None of us would have voted ... marble falls Mar 2014 #107
Will with all due respect, I don't think criticizing actions or lack thereof DebJ Mar 2014 #108
Another Will Pitt thread talking about Will Pitt Aldo Leopold Mar 2014 #109
More snark 1000words Mar 2014 #112
Hiding and ignoring threads is Will's style Aldo Leopold Mar 2014 #116
MoJo! KoKo Mar 2014 #120
Is their a pat myself on the back smilie Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #122
I feel like I'm watching "Memento". nt gulliver Mar 2014 #124
Nailed it Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #134
When you have to create your own purity test to proclaim your superiority, you're probably not. eom tarheelsunc Mar 2014 #127
+1 treestar Mar 2014 #148
Pitt's quote..."I try to make him better". sheshe2 Apr 2014 #193
all those types of quotes make me realize treestar Apr 2014 #215
Grandiosity, judgmentalism, intolerance, impulsivity, msanthrope Apr 2014 #223
Like Professor Zoom trying to make Flash a better hero... randome Apr 2014 #226
Thread Winner and Slayer all in one. Number23 Mar 2014 #162
K&R nt TBF Mar 2014 #135
My sentiments exactly. k/r 840high Mar 2014 #136
The First Rule of Holes: ColesCountyDem Mar 2014 #140
Agreed. llmart Mar 2014 #155
+1 n/t ColesCountyDem Mar 2014 #165
Yes indeed the way you said it, Will. lumpy Mar 2014 #175
THANK YOU Skittles Mar 2014 #153
There is still that old 80s song rumdude Mar 2014 #154
"Sex Dwarf?" 1000words Mar 2014 #159
God I haven't heard that song for so long rudolph the red Apr 2014 #201
You're "part of the reason" for yourself n/t UTUSN Mar 2014 #173
Criticism is very healthy. ozone_man Mar 2014 #176
Wrong. Intelligence and strategy are far more important. Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #187
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Apr 2014 #194
We see things differently. ozone_man Apr 2014 #243
Apparently so. I see history and the past 33 years of right wing destruction. You think that's not Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #273
We criticize the President when he promotes RW Third Way policies, and the Third Way Zorra Mar 2014 #189
You keep confusing 'criticize' with 'insult'. randome Apr 2014 #219
For the umpteenth time.... Bobbie Jo Apr 2014 #251
I'm sorry, I don't believe you. If you are *really* against TPP, fracking, Keystone, spying, Zorra Apr 2014 #261
OMG Caretha Apr 2014 #286
I just have to quote an earlier post that hit the bullseye quinnox Apr 2014 #192
I have no problem with criticizing the president rudolph the red Apr 2014 #200
The rules should totally be tightened. JoeyT Apr 2014 #205
Being a good basher doest make you a good Democrat. DCBob Apr 2014 #207
WilliamPitt, you are an excellent Democrat and an even better American. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #208
Other Democrats meanit Apr 2014 #212
Kucinich was routinely called "loony tunes" and "batshit crazy" etc. G_j Apr 2014 #227
agendas, that dont directly include issues that Democratic voters support reddread Apr 2014 #234
If hypocrisy was sold by the gram they'd be f*cking millionaires... truebrit71 Apr 2014 #237
All the old Clinton smears got a thorough recycling here during the 2008 primary, QC Apr 2014 #238
Rec, for a change Doctor_J Apr 2014 #220
Can we stop attacking DUers and concentrate on electing DEMS... DontTreadOnMe Apr 2014 #233
+1000 darkangel218 Apr 2014 #241
Here's what a "better Democrat knows": ProSense Apr 2014 #239
Bernie Sanders? You mean that piece of... randome Apr 2014 #242
Yeah here is some more Doctor_J Apr 2014 #247
More ProSense Apr 2014 #254
Holding politicians responsible is fine; being the loud drunk at the bar is not theboss Apr 2014 #249
Whoop there it is. n/t JTFrog Apr 2014 #252
I agree! In fact, Obama asked us to hold him accountable! emsimon33 Apr 2014 #253
And no one is disputing that. No one. randome Apr 2014 #256
oops. Doctor_J Apr 2014 #263
So you found one. I stand corrected. randome Apr 2014 #265
Randome Caretha Apr 2014 #287
...and don't forget to tune into tomorrow's episode of "Flight of the Popinjay" dionysus Apr 2014 #258
I think someone's auditioning for this guy......... Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #259
! dionysus Apr 2014 #262
Kick!n/t Dalai_1 Apr 2014 #260
k&r Blue_Roses Apr 2014 #266
apologize to this community for calling Barack Obama a "piece of shit" stg81 Apr 2014 #271
You've inspired some copycats. Rex Apr 2014 #279
I hear Chris Christie is innocent too.. DevonRex Apr 2014 #285
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