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Obama's approval rating among liberal dems is 85%, but among conservative dems it's only 60% [View all] Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 OP

Nice to keep it in perspective. treestar Mar 2014 #1

I'm fresh out of those. lonestarnot Apr 2014 #114

Or more liberal members are more loyal when polled by outsiders. polichick Mar 2014 #2

The statistical analysis suggests people who dont like Obama... Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #16

No, it definitely doesn't. Gravitycollapse Apr 2014 #25

The numbers do suggest that those who disapprove of Obama tend to be more conservative Cali_Democrat Apr 2014 #30

What's amusing is your apparent inability to understand how statistics work... Gravitycollapse Apr 2014 #35

The anger is palpable. Cali_Democrat Apr 2014 #37

Yes, anger is a human emotion often expressed at the incessant daftness of others. Gravitycollapse Apr 2014 #45

Snort. That was not a good use of your time ma'am/sir. lonestarnot Apr 2014 #115

You're telling me LordGlenconner Apr 2014 #92

The poll specifically says "approve" and "disapprove". CJCRANE Apr 2014 #75

It gives a general disapproval rating. It does not say how many liberal Democrats disapprove. Gravitycollapse Apr 2014 #107

You fell for it again. lonestarnot Apr 2014 #117

Actually, yes it does. It's pretty simple math. DanTex Apr 2014 #101

It's simple math as long as you don't know anything about statistics. Gravitycollapse Apr 2014 #105

LOL. And I thought that the anti-Obama idiocy couldn't get any worse. DanTex Apr 2014 #111

You still don't get it, do you? I hate it when people make up statistics to suit their argument. Gravitycollapse Apr 2014 #112

Oh, I get it. Unlike you, I am actually capable of addition and subtraction. DanTex Apr 2014 #113

Show me where in that Gallup poll it states 15% of liberal Dems and 40% of conservative Dems... Gravitycollapse Apr 2014 #116

This is where you need to use those arithmetic skills. DanTex Apr 2014 #119

AAAAAAAH. Okay let me try this one more time... Gravitycollapse Apr 2014 #121

Except that disapproval was polled. And only 4% of the general population 100-(45+51) answered DanTex Apr 2014 #123

And, as I have already stated, no demographic information was given for the disapproval rating. Gravitycollapse Apr 2014 #124

And given that the "neither" category is miniscule, it is totally implausible that a full 25% DanTex Apr 2014 #125

No, around and around you go in your little noggin. All flustered because you don't fucking get it. Gravitycollapse Apr 2014 #128

Umm, no, I completely get it. Given that there are only 4% in the "neither" category... DanTex Apr 2014 #129

There is plenty of anecdotal evidence that "those who dislike Obama tend to be more conservative." yardwork Apr 2014 #106

And that would be fine if the OP said he or she had anecdotal evidence. Gravitycollapse Apr 2014 #110

My point is that liberal Dems are loyal to the party when polled by outsiders... polichick Apr 2014 #58

I wonder why post #35 (explanation of poll results) isn't being applied to your post? Sheepshank Apr 2014 #66

Well, depending on how you ask a question, you can get... polichick Apr 2014 #73

But I don't see that type of question having been asked in the poll Sheepshank Apr 2014 #82

What type of question? polichick Apr 2014 #83

And we vote Democratic. And we vote in every election and primary. And we encourage others yardwork Apr 2014 #108

Most people know who to blame Capt. Obvious Apr 2014 #109

The lying to the pollsters argument is ridiculous treestar Apr 2014 #118

it's always been this way JI7 Mar 2014 #3

Of course they are RobertEarl Mar 2014 #4

As Johnny Ringo's now famous post shows, Reagan Democrats are the base of the party Fumesucker Mar 2014 #6

You are cracking me up!! RobertEarl Mar 2014 #9

I've lost much of my interest in politics, the only thing keeping me here now is DU is hilarious Fumesucker Mar 2014 #14

So DU only represents DU jazzimov Mar 2014 #5

I know right....this must be a paradigm shift for some on DU! VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #28

That's been known for a long while now. Whisp Apr 2014 #97

Appears to me the liberal Dems have the President's back and the conservatives don't. Scuba Mar 2014 #7

Exactly, but libs are the bad guys. Makes me want to have nothing to do... polichick Apr 2014 #86

Liberal Democrats are a bit more loyal. kenfrequed Apr 2014 #100

I cannot disagree with anything you wrote here. Scuba Apr 2014 #102

Well... kenfrequed Apr 2014 #103

Weird BeyondGeography Mar 2014 #8

even more wierd..... Sheepshank Apr 2014 #69

It's either a sampling error BeyondGeography Apr 2014 #70

that's how i know many of the attacks on him are right wing trolls JI7 Mar 2014 #10

Correct Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #12

RW trolls on DU? RobertEarl Mar 2014 #13

LOL, nice try! nt Logical Apr 2014 #21

Yeah, I'm sure some rw trolls are sneaking in for now.. but the profiteering Cha Apr 2014 #24

So true Cha! So true.... nt sheshe2 Apr 2014 #33

Here's to the Cha Apr 2014 #36

The Obama ~ sheshe2 Apr 2014 #43

An integral part of that Revolution, she.. Cha Apr 2014 #46

Wolves in Sheep's Clothing.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #29

Interesting Bobbie Jo Apr 2014 #65

Pots calling kettles black... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #78

+1 uponit7771 Apr 2014 #59

But he's supposedly so "right-wing" himself Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2014 #11

What the hell is he doing that anyone that calls themselves a Democrat that is too liberal for them? TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #17

I think the definition of "liberal" has changed dramatically Art_from_Ark Apr 2014 #27

Indeed Puzzledtraveller Apr 2014 #71

Plausibly, which means my response to this is "You've stated the labels, now show me the agenda" TheKentuckian Apr 2014 #120

We'll add this to the list of 49,087,258 ways that stuff that is accepted as DU Gospel Number23 Mar 2014 #15

So true, at least not where I come from. nt sheshe2 Apr 2014 #19

Shhhh, haters don't like Cha Mar 2014 #18

Kick! sheshe2 Apr 2014 #20

But they're not "real" liberals, or not "good enough" liberals, or stuff. /sarcasm eom tarheelsunc Apr 2014 #22

That's because those that self-identify... Bonobo Apr 2014 #23

Moderate democrats = ? CJCRANE Apr 2014 #72

Do you think most DUers are liberal? polichick Apr 2014 #93

I don't know. It's an anonymous message board CJCRANE Apr 2014 #95

This message was self-deleted by its author polichick Apr 2014 #96

Which explains why conservative dems yowl so long and hard... Scootaloo Apr 2014 #26

"conservative dems yowl so long and hard... Cali_Democrat Apr 2014 #32

"The rest of" them.. Just like to Cha Apr 2014 #38

Yup, that's us, whiny liberals, always wanting stuff. Scootaloo Apr 2014 #41

Link to what? Scootaloo Apr 2014 #40

Those links still don't support your assertion that... Cali_Democrat Apr 2014 #42

Okay. Scootaloo Apr 2014 #47

Conservative dems are always running away from Pres Obama but don't Cha Apr 2014 #57

Well now we know they have officially jumped the shark... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #31

"We had to hold his feet to the fire, we did! He asked us to!" sheshe2 Apr 2014 #34

I'll tell ya the ones who won't be patting themselves on the back, she.. Cha Apr 2014 #44

They did indeed! sheshe2 Apr 2014 #48

That's what they do.. Cha Apr 2014 #49

They will swear there was no President Obama bashing...."just a few mildly disgruntled folks VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #53

they already are saying.. it's between "idolizing" and "confronted".. vile ugly names from Cha Apr 2014 #54

Don't forget the feet to the fire. sheshe2 Apr 2014 #55

Yes and they LOOOOVE to take credit for things nonsensically.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #56

Oh they will say how we are not "remembering it right at all"! VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #52

Damn Skippy they LOST....Big TIME! VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #51

I Told You !!! WillyT Apr 2014 #39

Cheers to us! Cha Apr 2014 #50

What is the criteria for the phrase "liberal dems"...?? truebrit71 Apr 2014 #60

All political polls are done using self-identification. Cali_Democrat Apr 2014 #61

I see...100% of Liberal Dems I know don't have approval numbers remotely that high... truebrit71 Apr 2014 #64

The same phenomenon that characterizes differences among conservatives Puzzledtraveller Apr 2014 #74

No such measurement existed when Bill Clinton was President Larry the Cable Dude Apr 2014 #62

That's not the point of the post Cali_Democrat Apr 2014 #63

From "Self identifying" liberal dems... truebrit71 Apr 2014 #67

So you don't trust the poll (which is a standard poll) CJCRANE Apr 2014 #76

No, I trust self-identifying liberal dems in my social/political circle truebrit71 Apr 2014 #79

Fair enough CJCRANE Apr 2014 #85

And ALSO using self dentifiers Sheepshank Apr 2014 #81

+1 Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #88

Possibly because the conserva-dems are more in-line with his policies... truebrit71 Apr 2014 #99

To me it looks like more liberal Democrats want more badly the Democratic Party to win. Cal33 Apr 2014 #68

I keep telling folks that DU is not representative of anything IRL. Remember, this is the joint.... Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #77

To be fair Capt. Obvious Apr 2014 #80

No matter how he "lost it", the result is the same. We don't do "nuance" here. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #84

This thread is proof of that Capt. Obvious Apr 2014 #87

. Rex Apr 2014 #91

Al Gore won the popular vote nationwide and didn't win in his own home state Fumesucker Apr 2014 #98

If we can get those Dems out to vote at midterms no way we can lose LynneSin Apr 2014 #89

your title is a hoot.... while sittin' on du. nt seabeyond Apr 2014 #90

Rec for the full thread Sheepshank Apr 2014 #94

Self-identified, indeed. Bobbie Jo Apr 2014 #122

LOL.. oh the humanity! Cha Apr 2014 #126

DU has been HILARIOUS all day today. You can tell the president is doing right by his constituents Number23 Apr 2014 #131

I haven't read the poll numbers; but .. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #104

translation DonCoquixote Apr 2014 #127

And Bernie Sanders!!!!!!! djean111 Apr 2014 #130