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71. I'm all for who's going to give us the better Supreme Court

Tue Apr 1, 2014, 03:47 PM

Apr 2014

because, at this point, if they can decide a corporation is a person, then we need better options on that court and damned if we know what other laws they're going to rule on that impacts generations to come--for example, a woman's right to choose.

Ultimately, I'd say I'm a pragmatist/realist when it comes to democratic politics. As a lesbian (which means I'm a woman as well), I'd much rather have a blue dog democrat with good social policy than a republican who is going to vote 100% all the time against both of my best interests (LGBT and being a female). Plus, there are just some areas in the United States a progressive Democrat is NOT going to get elected, so better a Blue Dog than nothing, IMO.

However, it would appear in the current political arena, since I'm not a corporation, what I think doesn't really matter or count. Policies are being created for them, not us.

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Two Different Mindsets at DU [View all] polichick Apr 2014 OP

Both sides have teams, both fighting for Policy Sheepshank Apr 2014 #1

+1. Skidmore Apr 2014 #3

+2 Kaleva Apr 2014 #10

I believe you're being a bit disingenuous here. Ms. Toad Apr 2014 #25

There is likely a *leaning* toward on or the other faction Sheepshank Apr 2014 #73

No I'm jumping on your case because there are two different approaches. Ms. Toad Apr 2014 #103

Thank you for an excellent post. sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #133

Excellent response. Le Taz Hot Apr 2014 #201

+1 a whole bunch.......nt Enthusiast Apr 2014 #284

The NSA was the only one Toad mentioned, but it is not the only one. cui bono Apr 2014 #177

Correct. Ms. Toad Apr 2014 #231

+10000 n/t 2banon Apr 2014 #139

It's really simple ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #95

YAH...I'm thinking it really is that simple. :) n/t Sheepshank Apr 2014 #129

Yep. That's all this is. Number23 Apr 2014 #162

Precisely why I am not a Democrat but an Independent. Bandit Apr 2014 #180

Except ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #190

Awkwardly accurate mythology Apr 2014 #279

But what's worse ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #302

Except Bandit Apr 2014 #303

Check your math and history ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #304

And those same people especially Lieberman who sandbagged any progressive legislation Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #350

Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #355

I appreciate your perspective. Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #356

I understand ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #357

I think another way to say it would be, Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #359

So very true ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #361

The OP did not make the "teams" you just made. cui bono Apr 2014 #181

+1 Marr Apr 2014 #189

Okay; but ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #192

Where did she put a value judgement on which one is better? cui bono Apr 2014 #196

Come on, mannn! eom. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #197

and furthermore Bobbie Jo Apr 2014 #215

As evidenced ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #219

I disagree. The "team" group is against criticism of policies they themselves criticized Bush for. n cui bono Apr 2014 #168

Thats the disturbing part. Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #349

I disagree. One side never enters policy discussions if they even remotely rhett o rick Apr 2014 #226

I disagree with you disagreement Sheepshank Apr 2014 #232

The "Team Obama" side never, ever, discuss issues unless it's to say that they agree with rhett o rick Apr 2014 #237

Since I didn't participate nor read such a thread Sheepshank Apr 2014 #247

I am on Team Democratic Principles. I will applaud Pres Obama when rhett o rick Apr 2014 #249

Oh gawd...really the unknown, idealistic, made up, non existant candidate team? Sheepshank Apr 2014 #250

Since you are not sure Caretha Apr 2014 #242

principles that are liberal in their idealogical origin Puzzledtraveller Apr 2014 #2

I'm definitely on the policy team Glitterati Apr 2014 #4

Won't give the hero worship crap up will ya'? It's had it's day and is gone. lumpy Apr 2014 #30

ROFL, so says Glitterati Apr 2014 #31

up is down, doncha know? grasswire Apr 2014 #108

Oh, don't I know Glitterati Apr 2014 #113

We all knew that Caretha Apr 2014 #243

WOW! I was simply QUOTING President Obama Glitterati Apr 2014 #266

Policies, but I read policy papers for breakfast nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #5

ROFL! 2banon Apr 2014 #142

whatever nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #145

Damn girl, we've needed a master plan here at DU for a while and you just now got around to okaawhatever Apr 2014 #182

I am positive your county has one nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #252

I'd definitely agree with you. Marr Apr 2014 #6

I don't know about you, but I'm fighting for policies: Cali_Democrat Apr 2014 #7

How do you feel about the NSA spying? Drones? Escalated whistle blower prosecutions? cui bono Apr 2014 #184

Glad you asked. Clearly you're unaware of my positions on these issues... Cali_Democrat Apr 2014 #198

I don't understand why you ridicule Snowden then? Without his action no one was talking cui bono Apr 2014 #218

I'm actually quite flattered that you're so interested in my opinions on various issues. Cali_Democrat Apr 2014 #230

If Snowden continues his leakimg he will end up doing more harm than good. lumpy Apr 2014 #258

The metadata collection was not legal when it started though. cui bono Apr 2014 #348

This message was self-deleted by its author rhett o rick Apr 2014 #311

Translation: My team is better than your team. FSogol Apr 2014 #8

You nailed it! greatauntoftriplets Apr 2014 #11

If you are worried about divisiveness Capt. Obvious Apr 2014 #14

Of course we 'Bots' should be quiet and demure while the shit is pouring. Whisp Apr 2014 #125

That almost made sense Capt. Obvious Apr 2014 #166

You and your buddy are the ones who put the value judgment in there. cui bono Apr 2014 #185

Foment it? Capt. Obvious Apr 2014 #229

That's about it. lumpy Apr 2014 #33

so far, that's how the partisans seem to be taking it.. frylock Apr 2014 #141

False. Not there at all. n/t 2banon Apr 2014 #144

No. The OP did not make the "teams" you just made. cui bono Apr 2014 #187

The OP was like a Rorschach test, it seems. Marr Apr 2014 #199

Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! cui bono Apr 2014 #206

LOL Marr Apr 2014 #209

Absolutely. That's why The Team wants to purge the extremist liberals. They think they are better. rhett o rick Apr 2014 #315

Pragmatist vs. Idealogue? Avalux Apr 2014 #9

Want some fun with the word 'pragmatist'? Search DU of the past for posts on Bluenorthwest Apr 2014 #27

I'll never forget that whole episode. Marr Apr 2014 #200

Exactly as I remember it. Le Taz Hot Apr 2014 #234

Pragmatism is often misused to justify the status-quo. I believe it's a symptom of rhett o rick Apr 2014 #316

Is this the same as the "incremental progress" argument? woo me with science Apr 2014 #76

I agree with you; no horse in this race. Avalux Apr 2014 #84

My take, exactly. +1! Enthusiast Apr 2014 #286

Goals, mainly... TreasonousBastard Apr 2014 #12

I'm fighting for the team that is best situated to advance the policies that benefit all Americans. MADem Apr 2014 #13

Hear hear. A responsible post, thanks. lumpy Apr 2014 #36

Yet another OP fostering division on DU... Spazito Apr 2014 #15

Huh? No way Spazito old boy-that's your opinion, no one else's. n/t bobthedrummer Apr 2014 #17

No one elses opinion ? That's your opinion. lumpy Apr 2014 #38

An advocate, lumpy? Does Spazito need an advocate? Huh? bobthedrummer Apr 2014 #75

Don't know, bob. Do you? lumpy Apr 2014 #262

HUH???? nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #21

The OP is merely a different version of the Obamabots vs the deep thinkers divisive garbage... Spazito Apr 2014 #26

Actually the OP is an example of what goes on at Political Science nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #28

Actually, it's not, it is deliberate fomentation of division already present on DU... Spazito Apr 2014 #34

Point one, it was alerted, and it was a 6-0 against a hide nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #44

A jury decision to hide or keep is meaningless to my point... Spazito Apr 2014 #52

What? That we have SEVERAL groups here? nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #54

If you are recognizing there are shades of grey and there is not an 'either/or' as premised ... Spazito Apr 2014 #62

Those are the two over reaching groups that political scientits nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #68

I guess we don't agree then. n/t Spazito Apr 2014 #69

That's a fact Jack! zappaman Apr 2014 #72

Building coalitions Fairgo Apr 2014 #239

If I do I will be merciselesly attacked nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #251

I'd be interested to see how that worked here.. Good suggestion. 2banon Apr 2014 #269

Sometimes Caretha Apr 2014 #246

Me too. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #287

Thank you! I have spent a lot of time in academia so... polichick Apr 2014 #50

I knew exactly where you were coming from nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #57

Indeed, crap or carp. lumpy Apr 2014 #40

We'll mark you down as a "Go Team!" mindset 1000words Apr 2014 #37

Your post helps further my contention the OP was posted to foment further dissention... Spazito Apr 2014 #45

Just following your lead 1000words Apr 2014 #48

Au Contraire, you couldn't be further from the truth.. 2banon Apr 2014 #136

Further dissention... Caretha Apr 2014 #248

And yet you're not talking about policy here. randome Apr 2014 #16

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service Glaug-Eldare Apr 2014 #18

another example of a spiteful alert nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #20

Another example the jury system works Brother Buzz Apr 2014 #29

Alerters should be ID'd in the event of an 0-6 LEAVE 1000words Apr 2014 #39

I dunno about that, but the alert freeze is good. Glaug-Eldare Apr 2014 #60

I thoroughly agree. grasswire Apr 2014 #114

Oh, ffs. Le Taz Hot Apr 2014 #236

Binary thinking is facile. nt msanthrope Apr 2014 #19

True. There aren't two teams. There are probably a thousand. randome Apr 2014 #22

Agreed Nevernose Apr 2014 #264

I think it depends... Whiskeytide Apr 2014 #23

I side with the Democrats in every issue. Half-Century Man Apr 2014 #24

Do you change your stance ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #55

No, I argued for equality for years (Gay family members and respected friends). Half-Century Man Apr 2014 #77

So then ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #85

I vote democratic, always have. Half-Century Man Apr 2014 #96

So then ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #100

That's fairly accurate. Half-Century Man Apr 2014 #174

You cannot have policy without politics frazzled Apr 2014 #32

Wow. Well said. randome Apr 2014 #41

Politicians campaign on policy - govern as politicians leftstreet Apr 2014 #49

I don't think that's always true: let me give an example frazzled Apr 2014 #176

Well said....One team are Idealists...one team are the Realists... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #56

Not quite, I don't think. Ms. Toad Apr 2014 #118

NSA surveillance is merely "unpalatable"?? marions ghost Apr 2014 #155

There are plenty on DU Ms. Toad Apr 2014 #163

With ya marions ghost Apr 2014 #169

Well said. Some think stating an end goal is the same as ... JoePhilly Apr 2014 #90

+1 ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #107

+1 DCBob Apr 2014 #115

No. Both groups are not interested in policy. cui bono Apr 2014 #204

In the immortal words of all those who have been responding to my posts lately frazzled Apr 2014 #223

You read my post and all you saw was the word "bullshit"? You need glasses then. cui bono Apr 2014 #227

Yeah, some of us are in support of things like ending DADT, extending health coverage, DanTex Apr 2014 #35

I see a huge focus on individuals BainsBane Apr 2014 #42

this is it exactly Marrah_G Apr 2014 #43

"it's frustrating" - I agree. Almost every discussion breaks down fast. polichick Apr 2014 #122

No- it's Ideologues v. Pragmatists. What that means in general >>> KittyWampus Apr 2014 #46

Paraphrased, in non-weasel speak: "No, it's Democrats vs. Third Way RWers. Zorra Apr 2014 #120

Warren has the same liberal rating as Udall. joshcryer Apr 2014 #161

Who says, and based on how many votes, exactly? I believe you may be trying to mislead me Zorra Apr 2014 #214

That's my Congress. joshcryer Apr 2014 #238

OK I did. It's based on votes on 8 "liberal" bills. Zorra Apr 2014 #241

Right. Same for Udall. joshcryer Apr 2014 #245

I like non-weasel speak. +1! Enthusiast Apr 2014 #289

What you call "idealogues and pragmatists", I call Marr Apr 2014 #225

Truth Caretha Apr 2014 #257

It's two sides of the same coin. CJCRANE Apr 2014 #47

I get the need to push back against the Republicans. Maedhros Apr 2014 #87

excellent post nt grasswire Apr 2014 #123

Very well said. I am with you. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #290

I'm a policy person. Blue_In_AK Apr 2014 #51

Do you want to share some wonderful County Water Master Plans? nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #58

DURec leftstreet Apr 2014 #53

Agree there are two GD groups that are marions ghost Apr 2014 #59

It appears there is a lack of trust and a level of fear, which is understandable..all considered. Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #61

True, loss of trust and a lot of fear-- marions ghost Apr 2014 #117

I don't have a solution and what I meant by, I am not convinced there needs to be one, Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #130

Always policies. 840high Apr 2014 #63

Spot on. nt Demo_Chris Apr 2014 #64

Neither JustAnotherGen Apr 2014 #65

"Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, you may cherish the sweetest reflection that Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #66

"A Moral Victory is STILL a loss." eom 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #111

So is an immoral victory. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #116

What would ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #124

But what about marions ghost Apr 2014 #143

Then, I still ahead ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #152

Sounds good in theory marions ghost Apr 2014 #160

I see a lot of posts talking about other DUers CJCRANE Apr 2014 #67

You forgot the third. WilliamPitt Apr 2014 #70

+1 bvar22 Apr 2014 #80

I'm all for who's going to give us the better Supreme Court justiceischeap Apr 2014 #71

This message was self-deleted by its author CJCRANE Apr 2014 #74

A simplistic analysis, but accurate. bvar22 Apr 2014 #78

Wow! cui bono Apr 2014 #207

The problem is actually location Blue_Adept Apr 2014 #79

haha! lol and chortle & guffaw. Whisp Apr 2014 #81

I wear no colors, but I can't and won't forget the Nader disaster which brought us 8 years of Bush Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #82

And I cannot forget the five members of the USSC who voted for that nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #86

the curious roles played in that 5 vote majority and the early capitulation reddread Apr 2014 #93

There was one choice that Gore could have taken after the decision nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #97

Wellstone could have backed the CBC reddread Apr 2014 #132

I will be clear nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #135

You have been predicting a civil war for years.... maddezmom Apr 2014 #138

Do you believe that Biden brought us Thomas? Raine1967 Apr 2014 #127

has nothing to do with Thomas reddread Apr 2014 #131

Got it. Thanks for you honest answer. Raine1967 Apr 2014 #146

are you a snake in the grass? a coward making cowardly accusations? reddread Apr 2014 #170

None of the above. nt Raine1967 Apr 2014 #193

My take, exactly. +1! Enthusiast Apr 2014 #292

omg reddread Apr 2014 #89

Oh you don't have to feel for me. I'm the one that believes in strategy rather than whining and Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #323

Your constant whining on nadderites and others might suppress that nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #329

do you remember this also? G_j Apr 2014 #102

I'm not entirely sure what you are responding to. nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #153

You, he was responding to you nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #156

Unless you are his personal guardian, I think he should respond for himself nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #157

I am not anybody's personal guardian nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #171

It is how the Congressional Black Caucus G_j Apr 2014 #165

It helps that the only place I saw that nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #173

second best part of that movie ;) reddread Apr 2014 #205

Excellent point. I'd forgotten that very important event. Not Told by the Media. 2banon Apr 2014 #275

Trying to conceal the damage done by the Naderites by pointing out what Republicans Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #244

one might find your response very dismissive of this crucial history G_j Apr 2014 #307

Gore won the popular and elcectoral vote. Full stop. morningfog Apr 2014 #298

Team Shivering Jemmy Apr 2014 #83

there are are some Ignorant Conspiracy Theory types on here JI7 Apr 2014 #88

one more time for the world reddread Apr 2014 #98

That...sounds right. randome Apr 2014 #104

Are you implying the Republicans do not conspire against the majority of America? Fumesucker Apr 2014 #191

it's no secret what republicans want to do and neither was lieberman JI7 Apr 2014 #195

That is one of the most logical ways I've heard it explained. giftedgirl77 Apr 2014 #208

Take away the TEAM, and the POLICIES go nowhere. We need both. eom tarheelsunc Apr 2014 #91

I'm for initiatives that appear to be trying to improve the quality of life on Earth. nt ladjf Apr 2014 #92

Another terrible frame ecstatic Apr 2014 #94

you mean Joe Biden? n/t reddread Apr 2014 #99

No one on here who was concerned with policy made anyone appoint Wall Street cui bono Apr 2014 #213

Somebody made a good point Aerows Apr 2014 #101

Nothing like a good image to go with that nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #105

LOL! n/t Aerows Apr 2014 #148

Not buying the disingenuous framing Bobbie Jo Apr 2014 #106

Which "field" are you speaking of? countryjake Apr 2014 #137

2003 Bobbie Jo Apr 2014 #159

"More liberal than thou pissing match..." I totally agree with you on that. countryjake Apr 2014 #216

Criticism has never been the issue Bobbie Jo Apr 2014 #235

Team. The team wins? Then the policies happen. calimary Apr 2014 #109

I understand what you're saying, however I believe that you are precluding Raine1967 Apr 2014 #110

Utterly wrong. jeff47 Apr 2014 #112

+1 eom. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #119

The only policy I know that always trumps any type of fighting: DeSwiss Apr 2014 #121

I think the best way to promote progressive policies is to support Democratic candidates. Fozzledick Apr 2014 #126

It's useless, polichick. It's becoming increasingly clear that we are mostly dealing with people, Zorra Apr 2014 #128

BOOM! Rex Apr 2014 #134

BOOM! indeed :) Aerows Apr 2014 #147

I was thinking the same thing after reading it! Rex Apr 2014 #150

+1, +1 reddread Apr 2014 #175

There is a reason why I no longer bother with the weather here nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #149

How could anyone ignore the makeup of the Third Way Board of Trustees? Enthusiast Apr 2014 #294

Proud to K&R quinnox Apr 2014 #140

Two at least RobertEarl Apr 2014 #151

I'm not on any team vi5 Apr 2014 #154

There are sides, and when yours starts to lose momentum we see self-justifying threads like these BeyondGeography Apr 2014 #158

Thread Winner. Obamacare is doing well and I hope that we see an increase in his poll numbers soon Number23 Apr 2014 #164

theres always the opportunity to trim the noise levels reddread Apr 2014 #178

I quite agree. One can either be a liberal Democrat or a Democrat liberal. raouldukelives Apr 2014 #167

what is hard to imagine reddread Apr 2014 #172

No question about it. cui bono Apr 2014 #179

More backslapping flamingdem Apr 2014 #183

DLC randys1 Apr 2014 #186

Policies, not personalities. 99Forever Apr 2014 #188

It's interesting that the people who think this is a divisive OP are the ones who do the "team" cui bono Apr 2014 #194

+++++++ marions ghost Apr 2014 #212

^^THIS is the most important post in this entire thread Glitterati Apr 2014 #318

Well said...Recommend. KoKo Apr 2014 #319

As always, Le Taz Hot Apr 2014 #202

This OP is just a false analysis. DU contains many different mindsets depending on the viewpoint ... kwassa Apr 2014 #203

there are two kinds of people. reddread Apr 2014 #210

There are three kinds of people in the world. kwassa Apr 2014 #211

Yes there are many shades... marions ghost Apr 2014 #220

I think everyone needs to chill, and look for their commonalities. kwassa Apr 2014 #271

I'm with that marions ghost Apr 2014 #277

I have to admit - it's a lot easier to stay positive with the TEAM approach rather than the POLICY Douglas Carpenter Apr 2014 #217

That's a good point marions ghost Apr 2014 #224

Neither - I am fighting for the workers. TBF Apr 2014 #221

thank you my dear polichick. It is my great pleasure to rec you op. cali Apr 2014 #222

Politicians are transitory at best, disposable at worst; principle is not Scootaloo Apr 2014 #228

Then there's those of use who just don't give a F rumdude Apr 2014 #233

Liberal principles and policies over a team any day. Efilroft Sul Apr 2014 #240

Then you shall continue to drink of the Republican cup. In times of crisis like this Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #256

I like throwing rocks at packs of jackals. Efilroft Sul Apr 2014 #260

As I said. In times of crisis... Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #261

meanwhile, toss out those YOU proclaim heretics? what a crock. reddread Apr 2014 #263

No crock. You either join the enemy of your enemy, or you're sunk. Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #265

crocks for days, there is only one strategy in the face of defection reddread Apr 2014 #301

Suit yourself. You're happy with a because-I-damned-well-feel-like-it view. Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #322

The enemy of my enemy is still my enemy. Efilroft Sul Apr 2014 #267

Then mosey on along. Ciao! Enjoy yourself. nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #268

Ah, so it's true: The team thinks it's better than everyone else. Efilroft Sul Apr 2014 #272

When you folks get over that "hero" dream you're in, then we might be able to talk sensibly nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #274

Are you going to talk sensibly as an equal? Efilroft Sul Apr 2014 #276

What happens when the enemy of your enemy isn't much better than your enemy? cui bono Apr 2014 #346

What situation are you referring to? (Since obviously it isn't Dems vs. Repukes) nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #353

Well you're asking us to forgo our principles in order to get behind any Dem who's running. cui bono Apr 2014 #363

Your "principles" already got us 8 years of Bush, and a very right wing Supreme Court. nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #364

How? n/t cui bono Apr 2014 #365

Still wondering what you meant. n/t cui bono Apr 2014 #367

I'm not fond of pretense. nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #368

What does that mean? I'm asking you to explain your accusation. cui bono Apr 2014 #369

No need to pretend. I've read your comments in the past. Move along. nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #370

Ah... I see. So you just throw out an accusation with nothing at all to back it up. cui bono Apr 2014 #372

one "team" is showing it's aptitude for willful ignorance right in this thread bobduca Apr 2014 #253

I'm fighting as a team for a set of policies. Auntie Bush Apr 2014 #254

Something I've noticed about some on DU jazzimov Apr 2014 #255

And vice versa. Blue_In_AK Apr 2014 #259

This is true. I think they have a "I'm SUCH a hero!!!!" mentality. They've done that before and Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #324

Psst... WillyT Apr 2014 #270

Just so they all vote for the dem, I don't care what the two groups fight about. The options are lonestarnot Apr 2014 #273

Hilarious responses from the teambots Corruption Inc Apr 2014 #278

It's wrong to see it that way. cheapdate Apr 2014 #280

Except that I had this exact discussion in a poli sci 101 course nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #283

I believe DU has moved beyond poli-sci 101 maddezmom Apr 2014 #288

There's the anti-intellectualism we need here at DU! What do poli-sci professors know anyway? bobduca Apr 2014 #306

anyone that has studied beyond poli sci 101 maddezmom Apr 2014 #308

no your claim that DU is beyond analysis by political science 101 bobduca Apr 2014 #309

I am saying maddezmom Apr 2014 #310

I find the analysis spot-on with regard to bobduca Apr 2014 #312

Looks like we agree after all maddezmom Apr 2014 #314

These categories are simple groupings of people by political tendencies. cheapdate Apr 2014 #296

Humans categorize marions ghost Apr 2014 #313

Yes. People must generalize and categorize, which is why I described it as "necessary". cheapdate Apr 2014 #326

OK so you don't like the definitions marions ghost Apr 2014 #334

There is no way to read that OP crictically cheapdate Apr 2014 #358

Consider that marions ghost Apr 2014 #360

Yes, better awareness and understanding the different ways people approach politics cheapdate Apr 2014 #362

Biologists call this *pattern recognition* nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #327

Please read my response to marions ghost. cheapdate Apr 2014 #328

As I sad, I give up nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #330

Yeah, good luck with your coalition building, cheapdate Apr 2014 #331

Well, ditto nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #333

It seems you'd rather continue to pretend as though I dispute the existence of categories cheapdate Apr 2014 #336

Since she used poli sci schematta... nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #337

Huh? And here I thought it was just another more verbose way cheapdate Apr 2014 #339

If this was presented at a convention nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #340

Really? A discussion at the water cooler. cheapdate Apr 2014 #342

Political science conventions nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #343

It's informaly referred to as "moving the goal post". cheapdate Apr 2014 #345

Since you never really wanted to discuss things nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #347

Your statement is cryptic. Care to explain? cheapdate Apr 2014 #351

Yup, amusing nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #352

Policy. Always. donheld Apr 2014 #281

"Two Different Mindsets at DU" Agree: ProSense Apr 2014 #282

Nailed it, ProSense. cheapdate Apr 2014 #332

I know there are a couple of DU globalists I don't agree with, B Calm Apr 2014 #285

What is a globalist? marions ghost Apr 2014 #291

They like free trade deals like NAFTA. . B Calm Apr 2014 #293

OK thanks marions ghost Apr 2014 #295

"Issue actives" and "party actives" as political science labels the two. morningfog Apr 2014 #297

I've rarely if ever encountered a personailty on DU cheapdate Apr 2014 #354

Yet another platform to assert Bobbie Jo Apr 2014 #299

Shorter thread: "Two teams: my smart one, and your stupid one." "No, you're wrong, the two Chathamization Apr 2014 #300

It's more complex than this IMO. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2014 #305

My mindset? raven mad Apr 2014 #317

Just fight for the human, not corporate, side of life. ananda Apr 2014 #320

policies.Because once a policy, law or rule is implemented,good or bad- we may never get rid of it. Sunlei Apr 2014 #321

I'm indifferent. kentauros Apr 2014 #325

Well, then you're not invited to the meetings!! randome Apr 2014 #335

There are meetings? kentauros Apr 2014 #344

Your litmus test RandoLoodie Apr 2014 #338

I have always called this the DEMOCRATIC vs. the UNDERGROUND johnlucas Apr 2014 #341

Everyone wants a purity test WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2014 #366

I'm less kind in my appraisal. Some folks hide behind "team" because their actual positions TheKentuckian Apr 2014 #371