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ConservativeDemocrat

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34. Bogus numbers don't help much
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 10:34 PM
Apr 2014

So I went to the commondreams.org link. It quoted a "study" by the Libertarian CATO institute, which came up with this absurd number of "corporate subsidies". Here's a quote:


The federal government will spend almost $100 billion on corporate welfare in fiscal 2012. That includes direct and indirect subsidies to small businesses, large corporations, and industry organizations. These subsidies are handed out from programs in many departments, including the departments of Agriculture, Commerce, Energy, and Housing and Urban Development.

So, when HUD gives money to poor and middle class people for housing assistance, the CATO institute calls that "Corporate Welfare". When it pays for R&D and University Grants - "Corporate Welfare", the Minority Business Development agency? Corporate Welfare, the Advanced Technology Vehicles Manufacturing Loan Program? Corporate Welfare. High Speed Rail? Corporate Welfare. Community Development Block Grants? Corporate Welfare.

Not even going into the fact that most of this "welfare" are actually just loans, and that the vast majority of that money will be (or already was) paid back, a lot of this so-called "corporate welfare" like the Rural Utilities Service isn't even spent on non-governmental services. Yes, according to CATO, building hydroelectric dams in the west is "corporate welfare".

This only goes to prove that Scuba, like so many of the hard anti-Democratic left around here, are so extremist that they make common cause with the extreme right. The fact that they're siding in their graphics with CATO and Romney, wanting the Detroit auto industry to go bankrupt and whining about Solyndra, speaks volumes. I find it all downright disgusting.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

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"You sure you're pissed at the right people?" Jackpine Radical Apr 2014 #1
Yes rhett o rick Apr 2014 #4
That makes a few of us. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #16
This list verifies that I have been pissed at the right folk, iemitsu Apr 2014 #2
Yup. And I paid a lot more than that. grahamhgreen Apr 2014 #3
This doesn't make sense n2doc Apr 2014 #5
Yes, as I understand it, it includes state/local subsidides to business. Scuba Apr 2014 #8
Well, not all of our country's wealth comes from personal income taxes. MADem Apr 2014 #30
Payroll taxes are the same as income taxes to most people. fasttense Apr 2014 #42
Most people never see or touch those payroll taxes. MADem Apr 2014 #48
I'm pissed off at everybody, so yup tularetom Apr 2014 #6
"If you make under $100K and vote GOP, you're a dumbass." DinahMoeHum Apr 2014 #7
Actually ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #11
truth pscot Apr 2014 #14
Let's keep it simple: If you vote GOP, you're a DUMBA$$! AAO Apr 2014 #18
Either a DUMBA$$ or an A$$hole csziggy Apr 2014 #20
You mean lo$er, right? AAO Apr 2014 #24
Of course! csziggy Apr 2014 #26
No reason to be a splitter; "Dumbasshole" covers it all. Scootaloo Apr 2014 #37
That would mean that anyone voting GOP is either a dumbass or a prick DFW Apr 2014 #13
That's clever! nt MADem Apr 2014 #31
Considering all the effort Winnie put out to keep Ireland subjected, IrishAyes Apr 2014 #35
The MIC and Wall Street. Rex Apr 2014 #9
Could also note it's for international corporations that outsource. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #10
This is an excellent piece to go viral.. 2banon Apr 2014 #12
I'm glad you made this an OP. K&R! Enthusiast Apr 2014 #15
I wish I made 50K a year. nt Javaman Apr 2014 #17
K & R SunSeeker Apr 2014 #19
And this is based on Income, not Wealth erronis Apr 2014 #21
I don't see a line there hfojvt Apr 2014 #22
Oh man, I cant believe you didnt get slammed for that one! 7962 Apr 2014 #36
The numbers aren't close to correct. Corporate subsidies would be pennies at best. nt Demo_Chris Apr 2014 #23
yeah, I'd like to see the math on this one. fbc Apr 2014 #29
The war in Iraq was nothing but a corporate subsidy... I hate liars Apr 2014 #46
I'm pissed off at everyone, so yeah, I'm sure I'm pissed off at the right people... joeybee12 Apr 2014 #25
k&r... spanone Apr 2014 #27
What about the rest of it? chompers Apr 2014 #28
Faux Nooz sez ... blkmusclmachine Apr 2014 #32
Damn, my only regret is that they only post ONE 'pick of the day' around here. THIS deserves TrollBuster9090 Apr 2014 #33
Bogus numbers don't help much ConservativeDemocrat Apr 2014 #34
You're grossly misrepresenting what the report says ... Scuba Apr 2014 #39
its gotta be satire bobduca Apr 2014 #43
Hey, it take some cojones to come on DU and defend corporate welfare. Give him credit for that. Scuba Apr 2014 #44
Post removed Post removed Apr 2014 #49
Quite sure JackInGreen Apr 2014 #38
we don't pay for defense. obxhead Apr 2014 #40
libertarians strike me as very odd. stonecutter357 Apr 2014 #41
I wish someone would make this graphic, but be consistent and accurate. Gore1FL Apr 2014 #45
And nowhere near enough awoke_in_2003 Apr 2014 #47
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