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LuvNewcastle

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31. It definitely should be shown during the campaign.

Wed Apr 2, 2014, 11:21 AM

Apr 2014

The Democrats, if they had any real organization, would portray themselves as the party of reform. I'm telling you, that's what people want. They are fucking sick of the way our government has been conducting itself, and they want to see some real change.

That's what people voted for in 2008, and they didn't get it, or they didn't nearly enough. Half-measures aren't going to work anymore. Democrats should be willing to really turn the heat up in this election. Bring up Bush and everything about his disgraceful administration and tie it to the Republican Party. Make sure people hear that there would be change already if the Republicans weren't blocking it at every turn. Name every important bill they've blocked. What do Democrats have to lose, after all? If Democrats are going down, they at least need to go down fighting.

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Who nominated them, and how they voted... [View all] Skinner Apr 2014 OP

K&R handmade34 Apr 2014 #1

Kinda says it all, don't it? zappaman Apr 2014 #2

Thomas is the sorriest excuse for a human as I ever knew. nt kelliekat44 Apr 2014 #139

k&r n/t RainDog Apr 2014 #3

and that is a powerful point. cali Apr 2014 #4

The point is those justices in red are Fascist. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #74

Kick and rec. This is why voting Democratic in EVERY election matters. FSogol Apr 2014 #5

we don't agree on much, but that we do agree on- at least when it comes cali Apr 2014 #14

The endless money they've just rewarded their comrades sufrommich Apr 2014 #6

Fascists suck.. PowerToThePeople Apr 2014 #7

They have no positive attributes. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #75

Should be made into a poster for 2014 campaigns. n/t Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #8

Good point. blue neen Apr 2014 #11

+1 /nt think Apr 2014 #13

It definitely should be shown during the campaign. LuvNewcastle Apr 2014 #31

Yea, there is no advantage in using a subtle approach. I would prefer we first state what we Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #45

"that's what people want" Enthusiast Apr 2014 #76

And we have people here who say keeping the White House doesn't matter BeyondGeography Apr 2014 #9

Burning stupidity on display,for sure. nt sufrommich Apr 2014 #15

Oh, it totally matters. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #79

And you really think she would appoint a Scalia? dbackjon Apr 2014 #89

You can't reason with a person that writes such shit. Spend your bluestate10 Apr 2014 #152

Some people really know how to shoot themselves in the foot treestar Apr 2014 #47

Sad Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2014 #122

As far as I am concerned, people that have that view are beyond stupid bluestate10 Apr 2014 #151

Thanks, Skinner. enlightenment Apr 2014 #10

In red and blue JustAnotherGen Apr 2014 #12

Another nail in the coffin of the gop. More proof that they are deliberately destroying the USA. jwirr Apr 2014 #16

Not a nail in the GOP's coffin. Brigid Apr 2014 #20

Well I was hoping this would smarten the voters up. jwirr Apr 2014 #22

How is being exposed to an unlimited number of Rethug ads going to smarten voters up? pnwmom Apr 2014 #62

Excellent question dickthegrouch Apr 2014 #72

I wish, but it is not. There are lots of people who think the decision is patriotic, and similar BS. Hoyt Apr 2014 #68

Great post! joshcryer Apr 2014 #17

Didn't we already know this? What am I missing? nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #19

"What am I missing?" handmade34 Apr 2014 #50

That some people desperately need reminders that the Dems are not the same as recons and Cha Apr 2014 #114

So did Bill Maher. He defined the reason Democrats exist. We have a mission: freshwest Apr 2014 #144

Excellent fresh! the Supreme Court and Global Climate Change to name another Cha Apr 2014 #148

"There is no difference between the parties," is the common theme. joshcryer Apr 2014 #115

Money trumps democracy. Octafish Apr 2014 #18

The good (blue), the bad (red) and the ugly (red) for America. nt UtahLib Apr 2014 #21

Those five red names? They need to be impeached Autumn Apr 2014 #23

I strongly agree. n/t defacto7 Apr 2014 #161

I don't know what more need be said. Brigid Apr 2014 #24

Please also note the democrats that voted fo Ichingcarpenter Apr 2014 #25

Oh wow. The only one I had really followed was Thomas Autumn Apr 2014 #30

1986 was a long time ago ... back when a President's nominees tended to sail through with little JoePhilly Apr 2014 #34

Obviously 1986 was a long time ago. Autumn Apr 2014 #35

So it doesn't count.... Ichingcarpenter Apr 2014 #37

Blows the mind doesn't it. Autumn Apr 2014 #40

I think if the Dems who let Scalia sail through back then had any idea Scalia JoePhilly Apr 2014 #38

Robert Bork? bullwinkle428 Apr 2014 #41

That's part of why I said "tended" to sail through. JoePhilly Apr 2014 #46

Just how bad was he? Enthusiast Apr 2014 #81

Roberts was the really big shock at the time Blue_Tires Apr 2014 #61

Excellent point.............nt Enthusiast Apr 2014 #80

Obama opposed both Roberts and Alito Cali_Democrat Apr 2014 #93

Ted Kennedy lead the charge Ichingcarpenter Apr 2014 #96

Damn I miss Ted Kennedy. nt Cali_Democrat Apr 2014 #98

This is important - often Dems are complicit in the corporate takeover. polichick Apr 2014 #95

Yes, Russ Feingold voted for John Roberts.. not the point of the OP. Cha Apr 2014 #118

So Senate votes don't count? Ichingcarpenter Apr 2014 #124

I said it wasn't the point of Skinner's OP. Cha Apr 2014 #127

Oh you speak for skinner now? Ichingcarpenter Apr 2014 #128

No Roberts or Alito to approve mzmolly Apr 2014 #125

I gave the data Ichingcarpenter Apr 2014 #126

I don't care for third rail liberals. mzmolly Apr 2014 #138

Completely irrelevant. DCBob Apr 2014 #157

The point is, you want your side to be the one making the NOMINATIONS ecstatic Apr 2014 #179

Alito's opinion in the Citizen's United case was that....... Trust Buster Apr 2014 #26

Alito is not naive. Jackpine Radical Apr 2014 #29

I'll make the call. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #83

Kick n Rec n/t Earth Bound Misfit Apr 2014 #27

Voting is important and voting for democrats is important. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #28

This same right-wing Gang of Five billh58 Apr 2014 #32

I know it's wrong to wish for unfortunate accidents.... Avalux Apr 2014 #33

The loss would immediately be replaced by another "like minded" judge.nt ladjf Apr 2014 #59

No,it wouldn't. Obama would never replace sufrommich Apr 2014 #65

I wasn't implying that Obama would appoint a right wing judge. ladjf Apr 2014 #78

That would be just fine. A 4-4 tie means this ruling doesn't happen. jeff47 Apr 2014 #121

No, Obama would appoint the replacement. n/t Avalux Apr 2014 #73

today's successful limbaugh boycott efforts would have kept thomas off the bench if used then in certainot Apr 2014 #36

In other words, Republicans HATE democracy LiberalEsto Apr 2014 #39

that's right barbtries Apr 2014 #69

They actually have destroyed our democracy. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #86

i don't want to believe barbtries Apr 2014 #112

Oh, it can be restored. But we must first overcome voter suppression and apathy. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #113

They appear to prefer some weird kind of Machiavellian Fascism. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #85

Well, color me surprised. . . . . . . . . . . . . not. Arkansas Granny Apr 2014 #42

5 red justices corrupt to the core bought and paid for. Hobby Lobby is licking their chops mountain grammy Apr 2014 #43

K & R SunSeeker Apr 2014 #44

Our outrage rustbeltrefugee Apr 2014 #48

Nina Totenberg on NPR was covering this story just a bit ago. 2banon Apr 2014 #64

Really brings home the importance of voting rudolph the red Apr 2014 #49

and handmade34 Apr 2014 #52

Indeed! rudolph the red Apr 2014 #55

k&R stage left Apr 2014 #51

I can only hope that at the end of this term, Bader-Ginsburg and Breyer (if no one else) retire. OmahaBlueDog Apr 2014 #53

K & R TDale313 Apr 2014 #54

It matters who's in the White House. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #56

Which, graphically, underscores ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #57

Exactly Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2014 #136

Nailed it. freshwest Apr 2014 #142

The GOP justices do nothing but promote the GOP ideology. Thank you for posting this nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #58

The Midterms matter. nt msanthrope Apr 2014 #60

Point taken. n/t whatchamacallit Apr 2014 #63

It is also the confirmation Savannahmann Apr 2014 #66

K&R SalviaBlue Apr 2014 #67

Thank you for this. It really brings the message home. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2014 #70

K&R DeadLetterOffice Apr 2014 #71

That is the only reason any decent person ever really needs to always vote for the Democratic Zorra Apr 2014 #77

FYI Botany Apr 2014 #82

K&R Firebrand Gary Apr 2014 #84

Kick!n/t Dalai_1 Apr 2014 #87

If a Republican wins in 2016 and gets to replace Kennedy Gothmog Apr 2014 #88

Absolutely. We can say goodbye to the Civil Rights Act. All of it. AlinPA Apr 2014 #106

Im convinced striking down the voting rights act is a key part of their takeover strategy. DCBob Apr 2014 #146

I really really hate them, lark Apr 2014 #90

BINGO- Elections have consequences. Bobbie Jo Apr 2014 #91

Hard to believe that in our lifetimes we had such Republicans dsc Apr 2014 #92

K&R.... daleanime Apr 2014 #94

Keep supporting Third Way candidates 1000words Apr 2014 #97

I see this whole thing went right over your "third way" head like it has anything whatsoever to Cha Apr 2014 #116

Don't waste your time. There are other options available besides bluestate10 Apr 2014 #153

Oh, I'm not trying to convince the purists.. just letting them know their little Cha Apr 2014 #155

Skinner, I don't know if you noticed, but Thomas wouldn't have made it through were it not for Biden 2banon Apr 2014 #99

^^^This^^^ 1000words Apr 2014 #101

A Dem POTUS means never having to confirm a fascist for SCOTUS. nt Zorra Apr 2014 #102

True. Let's move to remove Thomas and Scalia for legal and ethics violations before it's too late. 2banon Apr 2014 #109

For one thing Thomas should always recuse himself when anything is up for consideration Iliyah Apr 2014 #137

a Dem Pres would not nominate Scalia , if Biden was PRes he would not have nominated Scalia JI7 Apr 2014 #103

I agree. It's an absurd suggestion. nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #105

Of course that's true.. I didn't say Obama or any Democratic Party member for that matter 2banon Apr 2014 #108

You really think they would have nominated someone reasonable as an alternative?? DCBob Apr 2014 #150

"But But But.. Russ Feingold voted for John Roberts so the OP is Cha Apr 2014 #119

Which Means we need to vote for more Liberals and Progressives fascisthunter Apr 2014 #111

agree n/t 2banon Apr 2014 #129

like Russ Feingold who voted to confirm ? JI7 Apr 2014 #132

Well, You Got me There fascisthunter Apr 2014 #133

hahha JI7 Apr 2014 #134

Oh right.. Skinner wouldn't have "noticed" that.. which has nothing to do with the point in Cha Apr 2014 #117

Using the Senate to block nominations based on ideology has serious consequences Hippo_Tron Apr 2014 #158

Of course, but you're preaching to the choir.. 2banon Apr 2014 #160

thomas did not report money given to his wife by tea baggers for years questionseverything Apr 2014 #177

goddamn effing pukes. BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2014 #100

I could prove how many good swear words I know, but whats the point now? AAO Apr 2014 #104

excellent point nt steve2470 Apr 2014 #107

I know this sounds harsh but, Stellar Apr 2014 #110

Wrote in another thread, but will repeat: Hillary voted against Alito and Roberts n/t OKNancy Apr 2014 #120

Good on her, Nancy and so did the current President. Cha Apr 2014 #130

it's the legacy of Presidents. it's the shit that keeps on giving. spanone Apr 2014 #123

It's a shame you should even feel the NEED to post this. blm Apr 2014 #131

I said fuck the "no difference" people in the 2010 Gubernatorial bluestate10 Apr 2014 #154

Bing-GO! Yeah, I wonder why Skinner felt the need to state the Obvious on THE Cha Apr 2014 #156

Either they're trolls or ecstatic Apr 2014 #181

Kick & highly recommended. William769 Apr 2014 #135

DEMS helped CONFIRM many of the baddies, too. Just pointing that out. blkmusclmachine Apr 2014 #140

Kicked and Recommending! sheshe2 Apr 2014 #141

K&R BumRushDaShow Apr 2014 #143

Anyone who says Democrats are the same as Republicans has LOST THEIR FUCKING MIND! baldguy Apr 2014 #145

Ralph nader Liberal_in_LA Apr 2014 #147

Your fact still won't convince the DUERs who vote their "principles" bluestate10 Apr 2014 #149

This is, above all other things, we need to GOTV! (nt) NYC_SKP Apr 2014 #159

Ugh. Rex Apr 2014 #162

Let's Hear From Sen Russ Feingold on Why He Voted For John Roberts.. Cha Apr 2014 #163

Hate to break it to you BlindTiresias Apr 2014 #164

Aren't you just a ray of pessimism. and, you're not "breaking" anything to Skinner, fyi. Cha Apr 2014 #165

Sorry BlindTiresias Apr 2014 #166

We'll see what is achievable. If you have a crystal ball I maintain it's murky. Cha Apr 2014 #167

Let's see some cites on this - TBF Apr 2014 #170

Ok BlindTiresias Apr 2014 #173

That's a description - TBF Apr 2014 #174

What? BlindTiresias Apr 2014 #178

I'm not a con law scholar - TBF Apr 2014 #180

"Simply put the supreme court TBF Apr 2014 #183

Yeah BlindTiresias Apr 2014 #184

DAMN!!! SunsetDreams Apr 2014 #168

Hey Sunset.. :( Cha Apr 2014 #182

So if we want more decisions like that one, Progressive dog Apr 2014 #169

KIck Cha Apr 2014 #171

Time to Change the Number of Sitting Supremes? cer7711 Apr 2014 #172

It's definitely been discussed before. nt TBF Apr 2014 #175

If only Kennedy didn't vote with the unfair/lousey/Republicican Justices. Auntie Bush Apr 2014 #176