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muriel_volestrangler

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24. Seems to me NASA regards it as a permanent status
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 06:28 AM
Mar 2012
Through a conversation with then NASA Administrator Sean O'Keefe and associate administrator of the Space Operations mission directorate, William F. Readdy, I hoped to remedy the situation. This conversation took place in 2004, just weeks after the Federal Aviation Administration had awarded astronaut wings to civilian pilots Brian Binnie and Michael W. Melvill of Scaled Composites Inc. for their flights in SpaceShipOne. Both O'Keefe and Readdy agreed it would be appropriate to recognize the three NASA X-15 pilots for their achievements.

During the conversation, I mentioned the discrepancy between NASA's and the military's definition of "astronaut." The first issue was whether to select 50 or 62 miles as a defining altitude; Readdy selected 50 miles to eliminate any inconsistency between military and civilian pilots flying the same vehicle.

Beyond that, a major stumbling block in recognizing the X-15 pilots as astronauts had been, according to lore, the wishes of the Astronaut Office at the Johnson Space Center. To determine how the office actually felt about the issue and in an effort to resolve any potential concerns, I turned to Col. Michael J. Bloomfield, the Astronaut Office operations officer. Bloomer, as Mike is known, had flown on three space shuttle flights. Readdy also had flown three times. They seemed appropriate ambassadors. Between the two of them they smoothed the way; the chief of the Astronaut Office, Capt. Kent V. Rominger, subsequently agreed that recognizing the three NASA X-15 pilots would be appropriate and offered his assistance in the matter.

Figuring out exactly how to honor the pilots proved trickier. NASA does not issue metal astronaut wings, and has no official policy on the subject. In the end, it was decided that each pilot – McKay and Walker posthumously – would receive a set of the cloth-and-leather nametags worn by space shuttle astronauts on their flight suits, along with a certificate signed by Readdy, Rominger and Kevin L. Petersen, director of the Dryden Flight Research Center. Forty years after their groundbreaking achievements in the X-15 rocket plane, the three pilots finally got the recognition they deserved.

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/news/X-Press/stories/2005/102105_Schneider.html


They recognise non-NASA Americans who have been into space as astronauts, so continued employment by NASA is not the qualification.

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He isn't claiming to be an astronaut. Kalidurga Mar 2012 #1
Me, I'd call him an astronaut. Glassunion Mar 2012 #4
John Glenn EC Mar 2012 #16
Speaker Newt Gingrich ProgressiveATL Mar 2012 #20
but there is no confirmed report of his ever returning from orbit. ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2012 #26
I've always found that odd. Why are politicians no longer in office still Fla Dem Mar 2012 #27
And yet Mz Pip Mar 2012 #2
Word :-) ProgressiveATL Mar 2012 #21
Flat Earthers don't believe orbital flight possible, anyway. n/t IDemo Mar 2012 #3
How incredibly petty. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2012 #5
Imagine if the R's win and candidates are required to tell only exact truths Sweet dreams. Scuba Mar 2012 #6
That's like saying a Marine is no longer a Marine mainer Mar 2012 #7
I'm a pilot, even though I haven't flown for thirty years. Downwinder Mar 2012 #8
Unlike Palin - who is still called Governor... (nt) ehrnst Mar 2012 #9
I thought it was Half Governor..... groundloop Mar 2012 #10
Once you've been an astronaut you are always introduced as an astronaut. Ask John Glen. The Wielding Truth Mar 2012 #11
So retired Senators and Congressmen lose their titles when they retire? LastLiberal in PalmSprings Mar 2012 #12
It wasn't that long ago when the Repubs were having hizzies about frivious lawsuits. sarge43 Mar 2012 #13
The Repukes are giving Hernandez better publicity than he can buy. SDjack Mar 2012 #14
We should countersue for their claims of being "human". bluedigger Mar 2012 #15
I hope his campaign can capitalize on this petty behavior. Ruby the Liberal Mar 2012 #17
Even though "Joe" was never a plumber, he's still "Joe the Plumber".. denbot Mar 2012 #18
Joe was a plumber, and Hernandez will always be an astronaut jmowreader Mar 2012 #23
Job bills? Who cares? We have to keep this one guy from calling himself an astronaut. sakabatou Mar 2012 #19
I bet he filed more xxqqqzme Mar 2012 #22
Seems to me NASA regards it as a permanent status muriel_volestrangler Mar 2012 #24
This lawsuit is great for Hernandez. Now EVERYONE will know he flew in space. mainer Mar 2012 #25
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