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markpkessinger

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Thu Apr 3, 2014, 08:45 AM Apr 2014

My response to one NY Times reader regarding the Supreme Court . . . [View all]

In the comments to an editorial in today's New York Times titled, "The Court Follows the Money," one reader wrote:

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If reform is impossible, then a revolution is needed. What kind of revolution? How to proceed? Many paths are possible, none are easy. Let me suggest two places we might start.

First, stop voting. At the least, never again vote for the lesser of two evils. Again, if the system is irredeemable, then the sooner it fully breaks, the better off we will be in the long term. Working for the election of Democrats leads to nothing but heartbreak. That energy is better spent elsewhere. The more the tea-party and like minded elements succeed, the quicker the collapse of the system will arrive. Scarry? You bet.

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I couldn't let that one stand. Here was my response (which has not yet posted to the site):

Terence Stoeckert advises: "First, stop voting. At the least, never again vote for the lesser of two evils."

If we stop voting, we play into the oligarchs' hands -- so that suggestion is possibly the worst advice one could possibly give.

As for voting for the "lesser of two evils" ("LTE&quot , while LTE voting my well be worthy of criticism, I would remind you that this ruling did NOT come about as a result of voters choosing between the lesser of two evils. All five of the justices who voted to overturn the aggregate contribution limits in McCutcheon were nominated by presidents of ONE of the two parties: the GOP, and ALL FOUR who dissented were nominated by Democratic Presidents. Similarly, in Citizens United, the SAME FIVE JUSTICES were in the majority, three of the dissenters were nominated by Democrats and one, Justice Stevens, was a liberal Republican nominated by Gerald Ford.

Whatever criticism one may have of Presidents Clinton and Obama, it was the Justices they nominated who did NOT stand with the majority in this case. And it was the Justices nominated by Reagan, Bush I and Bush II that WERE the majority. But that probably doesn't sit well with your "both aprties are the same" narrative, does it?


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Nice job as usual mark. Doctor_J Apr 2014 #1
K&R. Well said. Overseas Apr 2014 #2
We see that same insane mindset here on DU regularly. JoePhilly Apr 2014 #3
Well, I think in some areas, there is some validity to the charge . . . markpkessinger Apr 2014 #5
I'm talking specifically about the notion that ... JoePhilly Apr 2014 #9
Agree with you there n/t markpkessinger Apr 2014 #11
We need to amend the Constitution to define "person" as a human being. JDPriestly Apr 2014 #53
The arguement over voting for the lesser of two evils is one of my real fears. If you do not vote jwirr Apr 2014 #4
People that won't vote for the lesser of 2 evils are just plain stupid. AAO Apr 2014 #23
Example: riqster Apr 2014 #29
Great analogy! n/t markpkessinger Apr 2014 #44
democrats=scalding water. tomp Apr 2014 #66
prefect. mikeysnot Apr 2014 #6
I wonder what their DU name is. sufrommich Apr 2014 #7
Good one It's sad, but true. nt okaawhatever Apr 2014 #52
Well done mcar Apr 2014 #8
Excellent response, but I wonder whether ... frazzled Apr 2014 #10
That's certainly a possibility . . . markpkessinger Apr 2014 #12
That too ... frazzled Apr 2014 #14
I think that the old adage about never ascribing to malice Fortinbras Armstrong Apr 2014 #67
Excellent Response Liberalynn Apr 2014 #13
Absolutely markpkessinger Apr 2014 #41
One of the Professors of European History Liberalynn Apr 2014 #55
Heinlein said... Wounded Bear Apr 2014 #15
You realize that Heinlein's personal politics were a bit problematic, Maedhros Apr 2014 #33
Yes, I know about his politics, in general... Wounded Bear Apr 2014 #36
True. [n/t] Maedhros Apr 2014 #40
I'm not much on either. riqster Apr 2014 #47
Maybe it's not a "purist attitude?" Maedhros Apr 2014 #50
I hear you, and agree in principle. riqster Apr 2014 #54
Don't get me wrong - I vote in every election, and never advocate staying away from the polls. Maedhros Apr 2014 #58
No argument with any of that. riqster Apr 2014 #64
The revolution has already occurred Augiedog Apr 2014 #16
what a good post tishaLA Apr 2014 #20
I agree .. there was a coup in 2000 sunnystarr Apr 2014 #32
Paranoia? Not a bit of it. riqster Apr 2014 #48
We've reached this sorry state because we stopped expecting our elected representatives Maedhros Apr 2014 #34
True. Sad indeed. riqster Apr 2014 #49
excellent post.. wish I could rec too.. 2banon Apr 2014 #60
Right. If we stop voting you better believe that the right wing will continue to vote totodeinhere Apr 2014 #17
Great reply ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #18
K&R stage left Apr 2014 #19
Impeach Clarence Thomas!!!!!! chuckstevens Apr 2014 #21
And, before that, some of the DC Dems need to call for that Doctor_J Apr 2014 #25
Of course, not voting is not the answer dotymed Apr 2014 #22
Look at the ages of these Justices... Trust Buster Apr 2014 #24
Good point. I'd add that 2014 is also crucial. riqster Apr 2014 #30
Well said Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2014 #26
I agree that we shouldn't just stop voting illachick Apr 2014 #27
I agree--Excellent response emsimon33 Apr 2014 #28
K & R riqster Apr 2014 #31
great response! BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2014 #35
Thanks! But understand . . . markpkessinger Apr 2014 #45
oh, I see--thanks for clarifying! BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2014 #46
if one agrees that we have a government bought and paid for by a small group of wealthy people, Warren Stupidity Apr 2014 #37
Oh, I'm in full agreement with you on that! markpkessinger Apr 2014 #39
If they had total control BlindTiresias Apr 2014 #56
Thanks, everyone, for the nice feedback -- here's a link to the published comment markpkessinger Apr 2014 #38
+1000 lark Apr 2014 #42
Wow, awesome! Thank you! nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #43
Thank you. Cha Apr 2014 #51
Post removed Post removed Apr 2014 #57
Nicely done Bobbie Jo Apr 2014 #59
K & R SunSeeker Apr 2014 #61
Thank you very much... Bookmarking. n/t freshwest Apr 2014 #62
I would bet money that poster is not a Democrat. DCBob Apr 2014 #63
one should also ask... tomp Apr 2014 #65
Original times comment writer responds. Terence Stoeckert May 2014 #68
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