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70. Yeah that's a great link summarizing the Koch's

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 01:38 PM

Apr 2014

well-funded efforts-- for at least the last 15 years --to diffuse and deflect all the research results and scientific opinion building the case for climate change. Good video too. Illustrates how they've succeeded in creating the impression that there are "two sides' to the issue, in the general public's mind. (However, not in the minds of 97% of scientists around the world).

The Kochs have been huge players in catapulting climate change denial...just one of their many "successes."

Thanks ++++ for the props--well since I'm researching these topics anyway, it's great to be able to share it with others who appreciate and can use!

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MSNBC Poll: Do you see climate change as a threat to your life or well-being? [View all] damnedifIknow Apr 2014 OP

Personally - No. dipsydoodle Apr 2014 #1

You might change your mind this summer damnedifIknow Apr 2014 #3

If you mean that the UK will have a nice summer this year dipsydoodle Apr 2014 #5

I guess you don't live near Portsmith. intheflow Apr 2014 #14

Do you mean Portsmouth ? dipsydoodle Apr 2014 #17

Enjoy the sky-rocketing food prices. Lex Apr 2014 #32

It's too late for Global Warming to get me,...... NM_Birder Apr 2014 #58

Pretty much nailed it... sendero Apr 2014 #63

Totally agree, NM_Birder Apr 2014 #71

LOL sendero Apr 2014 #72

I think most Americans get it, they just don't know what to do with it. NM_Birder Apr 2014 #75

Do you like the gulf stream? Shivering Jemmy Apr 2014 #34

Personally - Yes Nictuku Apr 2014 #2

The cost of food will skyrocket -- even for denialists villager Apr 2014 #4

Do you know what else makes food prices skyrocket? High oil prices. cigsandcoffee Apr 2014 #39

Well, between that, and actual crop failure, yes. villager Apr 2014 #40

Uh, yeah. Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #6

Nope MO_Moderate Apr 2014 #7

Thanks...voted yes. nt City Lights Apr 2014 #8

Let's see.... daleanime Apr 2014 #9

It's nuts damnedifIknow Apr 2014 #12

Pour one for me.... daleanime Apr 2014 #24

Voted. 8002 votes so far. Still 83% voting NO! n/t veness Apr 2014 #10

mother nature is not a democracy... PowerToThePeople Apr 2014 #11

Yes, but more a threat to my children's life and well-being. progressoid Apr 2014 #13

Really? Who gives a shit about online polls? Lochloosa Apr 2014 #15

well, how nice of you to... Duppers Apr 2014 #45

hopefully i will be dead by the time all the ice melts. m-lekktor Apr 2014 #16

Maybe that 83% plans on evolving a hard chitinous shell to avoid the unrelenting uv rays on our FSogol Apr 2014 #18

Umm, well, I like to eat... so... Yeah. bunnies Apr 2014 #19

Good way to put it... daleanime Apr 2014 #25

I'm 66 lillypaddle Apr 2014 #20

Of course global climate change is all about me. subterranean Apr 2014 #21

As of this moment we are 60 years AHEAD of the absolute worst case scenarios SomethingFishy Apr 2014 #22

What do you expect from a cable news audience? Oilwellian Apr 2014 #23

Hasn't really hit "most people" yet. In about 3 years, you might start getting a different answer. haele Apr 2014 #26

Not shocked at the results nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #27

I don't see a change, I am 66, I have seen cold winters and warm winters doc03 Apr 2014 #28

Oh and I forgot, there is another aspect to why the media has failed here nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #29

i voted yes and poll put me down for no....fucked poll. spanone Apr 2014 #30

Negatory. Jgarrick Apr 2014 #31

The denial is huge marions ghost Apr 2014 #33

I do not deny climate change, but I do maintain skepticism. Omnith Apr 2014 #37

What do you base your skepticism on? marions ghost Apr 2014 #38

I'm skeptical in the sense there is a lot more to learn. Omnith Apr 2014 #61

Climate change is not a "theory". There is demonstrable proof. You lose due to ignorance. nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #65

They still study gravity too. nt Duppers Apr 2014 #74

that's like being just a little pregnant. Duppers Apr 2014 #48

I do know... SoapBox Apr 2014 #35

Carlin said it best... Bigmack Apr 2014 #36

hehe lovemydog Apr 2014 #41

For me, climate change is not far enough in to effect the world I live in mrdmk Apr 2014 #42

That's fine, it is probably better this way. Rex Apr 2014 #43

Meh taught_me_patience Apr 2014 #44

have children? Duppers Apr 2014 #47

to my well being, hell yes. Duppers Apr 2014 #46

To those who take it seriously marions ghost Apr 2014 #49

Nope CFLDem Apr 2014 #50

Well that's better than total denial marions ghost Apr 2014 #52

I think that Niceguy1 Apr 2014 #51

RethugliCons heavily promote climate change denial marions ghost Apr 2014 #53

republicans have a tangible Niceguy1 Apr 2014 #56

"May or may not" marions ghost Apr 2014 #57

Thanks for this info & link. Duppers Apr 2014 #69

Yeah that's a great link summarizing the Koch's marions ghost Apr 2014 #70

"Climate is cyclical." Just like how "accidents happen all the time." Chathamization Apr 2014 #54

I voted no. NaturalHigh Apr 2014 #55

Still says 83% dipsydoodle Apr 2014 #59

"not a scientific poll"--freepy marions ghost Apr 2014 #60

The UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change marions ghost Apr 2014 #62

With that many stupid people walking around, I say fuck it. Let it happen. nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #64

Nature doesn't care what MSNBC says or what the results of these polls are. hunter Apr 2014 #66

Yes (nt) bigwillq Apr 2014 #67

Marginally. Increasingly dynamic weather could threaten me this year HereSince1628 Apr 2014 #68

"The Alarmists vs The Deniers" B2G Apr 2014 #73

personally? immediately.. no. in the future, perhaps. for future generations; a big big problem. dionysus Apr 2014 #76

I say yes, in about 15-30 years, the planet's fucked WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2014 #77