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17. You mean like in Mexico?

Reply to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #16)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 04:11 PM

Apr 2014

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Could have those deaths/injuries been prevented if firearms were allowed on the base? [View all] darkangel218 Apr 2014 OP

Hmmm, maybe if he was on open ground with lots of armed people walking around. louis-t Apr 2014 #1

or. . . . jehop61 Apr 2014 #2

Entirely possible. darkangel218 Apr 2014 #8

You think soldiers would just shoot randomly? oldhippie Apr 2014 #50

panic does strange things jehop61 Apr 2014 #57

Projection oldhippie Apr 2014 #61

Soldiers, where the phrase "shoot them all and let god sort them out" originated. A Simple Game Apr 2014 #70

I also have LOTS of years in the military - I would not consider myself DrDan Apr 2014 #71

derp Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #83

Really? lunatica Apr 2014 #3

Really? darkangel218 Apr 2014 #5

It's flame bait. lunatica Apr 2014 #7

No, your accusations are. darkangel218 Apr 2014 #9

Calling another poster a liar is a personal insult. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2014 #31

Actually I said he was posting flame bait lunatica Apr 2014 #72

And he directly stated that this is not the case. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2014 #77

I see your point lunatica Apr 2014 #87

Could those deaths/injuries have been prevented if nobody had firearms anywhere? Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #4

Absolutely. darkangel218 Apr 2014 #6

Remove the guns from all. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #10

Im all for registration. darkangel218 Apr 2014 #11

Take them off the market and make it a felony to have one. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #13

They will purchase them off the black market, just like they purchase heroin darkangel218 Apr 2014 #14

Why not? It's not "doable" because the politicians are afraid of the gun lobby. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #16

You mean like in Mexico? wall_dish Apr 2014 #17

Or, Japan, Germany, the UK? Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #23

In Mexico, ordinary folk do not have guns, thankfully. Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #60

Perheps. darkangel218 Apr 2014 #18

I don't see it happening for a very long time. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #24

It's not "doable" regardless of politicians OR the gun lobby. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2014 #25

Tsk. Tsk. Common Sense Party Apr 2014 #44

Wow, damn!! darkangel218 Apr 2014 #46

You're upsetting people. Common Sense Party Apr 2014 #47

Yes, Alcohol and Drug Prohibtion have worked so well... MicaelS Apr 2014 #28

Oh, well. I guess letting anyone or anyone play with guns is really a better idea. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #63

Of course. beevul Apr 2014 #12

The alternative is what happened. Bazinga Apr 2014 #15

I tend to agree with that. nt darkangel218 Apr 2014 #19

Sure you can, if the perpatrator had not been armed, no deaths, no Trayvon Martins, no Dunn Hoyt Apr 2014 #22

How are you/we going to stop the criminals from obtaining firearms?? darkangel218 Apr 2014 #26

Why do nothing for another decade. We'll just end up with 100 million more gunz to deal with. Hoyt Apr 2014 #30

I dont have the answer to that. darkangel218 Apr 2014 #32

Make guns taboo. Women need to tell men they don't date guys into gunz. We need to make Hoyt Apr 2014 #34

Hoyt, how are you gping to remove the millions of illegal guns darkangel218 Apr 2014 #36

We need to start by turning off the spigot. You need to quit fearing the boogeyman. Hoyt Apr 2014 #37

The boogeyman is real. darkangel218 Apr 2014 #38

If there weren't so many gun fanciers, the gun shop the perp bought the gun at would not be Hoyt Apr 2014 #43

Some states do have waiting periods. ... spin Apr 2014 #56

By creating a new boogeymen? NYC_SKP Apr 2014 #67

Nope, I don't think that's true. I think gun fanciers are irrational with respect to what Hoyt Apr 2014 #68

with folks like you as the spokeman for such, the effort won't get very far... dionysus Apr 2014 #48

I know a number of women who own firearms and even have concealed carry permits. ... spin Apr 2014 #55

Very few women demonstrate the same level of affection/obsession with gunz. Hoyt Apr 2014 #65

If you think the average unarmed man can take on a person armed with a handgun and win ... spin Apr 2014 #88

Not this woman HockeyMom Apr 2014 #78

Oddly enough when I was typing that post I thought of you as an exception to the rule. ... spin Apr 2014 #82

Never said I enjoyed it HockeyMom Apr 2014 #92

I agree that you never said you enjoyed it but you did say you liked it. ... spin Apr 2014 #93

The situation is that we have it in our Constitution yeoman6987 Apr 2014 #53

And even the most right wing Justice said restrictions are fine. Hoyt Apr 2014 #54

So where would a potential victim be keeping their firearm? Ilsa Apr 2014 #35

You're exactly right Bazinga Apr 2014 #58

In total, we have more deaths/injuries, cases of intimidation, stolen gunz, accidents, etc. Hoyt Apr 2014 #20

I dont know, Hoyt. darkangel218 Apr 2014 #21

You got it, it wasn't an gun free zone and it wasn't some yahoo playing cowboy that stopped it. Hoyt Apr 2014 #27

I heard there can be no concealed carry on the base. northoftheborder Apr 2014 #29

You are corect. darkangel218 Apr 2014 #33

No, it is not a gun free zone. There are guards, MPs, and hundreds of men who can take down a perp. Hoyt Apr 2014 #40

It was an MP who stopped the perpetrator yesterday. darkangel218 Apr 2014 #41

Yes. And, thank god, a bunch of gun toting soldiers trained to lay down a barrage didn't open fire. Hoyt Apr 2014 #45

A place where only "police" have guns on them, is by definition a gun free zone. beevul Apr 2014 #62

Probably more guns per square mile than most places, don't you think? Hoyt Apr 2014 #64

Only in the armory. One single isolated building, under guard. beevul Apr 2014 #74

More guns is always the answer from you Gun Enthusiasts, isn't it? Paladin Apr 2014 #75

Take it up with society. beevul Apr 2014 #76

Ha. Ft Hood shooting appears to have been created by a gun toter who got mad. Hoyt Apr 2014 #84

Asserted without any evidence what so ever. beevul Apr 2014 #90

Nope, investigators and post commander said it was an argument that escalated. Gun fancier pulled Hoyt Apr 2014 #91

They said nothing about the shooters politics. beevul Apr 2014 #98

Neither did my post. A gun toter pulling his gun (apparently got it out car) to shoot people Hoyt Apr 2014 #101

I'd opt for that unarmed status, rather than the universal armed camp you lot are after. Paladin Apr 2014 #86

Of course you would. beevul Apr 2014 #89

And you're accusing ME of moving the goalposts? Not even a good try on your part. (nt) Paladin Apr 2014 #97

Those goalposts you refer to...restated for your benefit. beevul Apr 2014 #99

You got one thing right: YOU said that, not me. Paladin Apr 2014 #100

Hypothetically yes, but... sarisataka Apr 2014 #39

So true. darkangel218 Apr 2014 #42

The reason bases are a weapon free zone... rppper Apr 2014 #49

No elleng Apr 2014 #51

No.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #52

Probably not. KamaAina Apr 2014 #59

Yes. n/t Skip Intro Apr 2014 #66

TBH, it's not a sure thing. AverageJoe90 Apr 2014 #69

There's always an exception to the rule Blue_Tires Apr 2014 #73

It was a military base liberal N proud Apr 2014 #79

No. obnoxiousdrunk Apr 2014 #80

Could the attack have been stopped sooner if he didn't sneak an illegal weapon onto the military Agnosticsherbet Apr 2014 #81

If criminals obeyed laws there'd be no murder, rape, robbery... The "gun-free zone" failed Skip Intro Apr 2014 #85

The police and mps have guns on the base. The security procedures obviously were lax, and he was lostincalifornia Apr 2014 #104

All of the places that you mentioned have a way of enforcing their gun-free policies. Bazinga Apr 2014 #114

Trashing thread. closeupready Apr 2014 #94

This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Apr 2014 #95

Have a nice day! darkangel218 Apr 2014 #96

First of all the army police are armed, so the answer is no. He brought the weapons illegally on lostincalifornia Apr 2014 #102

Texas does have background checks. oneshooter Apr 2014 #110

There is no waiting period in Texas, and the checks that can be done are limited. Also, the state lostincalifornia Apr 2014 #111

I never said that there was a waiting period in Texas. oneshooter Apr 2014 #115

I know you didn't. The individual had PSTD. No evidence one way or another if that would raise a lostincalifornia Apr 2014 #116

Well yeah watchingoveryou Apr 2014 #103

Maybe, maybe not. However, perhaps a more enforced security checkpoint could have caught this lostincalifornia Apr 2014 #105

I answered the question of the OP watchingoveryou Apr 2014 #106

I know you were addressing the OP. I just was adding my comments to your sub thread lostincalifornia Apr 2014 #108

I didn't mean to come off as it sounded watchingoveryou Apr 2014 #109

you dent. welcome to DU lostincalifornia Apr 2014 #112

just wondering...indeed U4ikLefty Apr 2014 #107

What is that supposed to mean? darkangel218 Apr 2014 #113