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NuclearDem

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19. No, not all murderers are mentally ill.

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 04:27 PM

Apr 2014

In fact, saying so is a HUGE factor with the discrimination against the mentally ill (who are far more likely to be victims of violence than perpetrators), because what you're saying is that ONLY the mentally ill commit murder.

Inability to determine right from wrong is a mental illness, but it's not the only reason people commit murder or manslaughter. Contract killings, gang violence, and hate crimes can be killings for business, territory, intimidation, or racial hatred, which are not mental illnesses.

There's a reason for degrees of murder and manslaughter. Some murderers and killers are more culpable than others, and perfectly reasonable people without mental illness commit cold-blooded acts of murder.

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Can we say all murderers are mentally ill [View all] npk Apr 2014 OP

including the government sanctioned ones, yes villager Apr 2014 #1

Pretty Much a Stretch, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2014 #2

+1 leftstreet Apr 2014 #5

exactly shanti Apr 2014 #13

Please tell me how to take care of the growing mental illness upaloopa Apr 2014 #3

We need to start by treating our ever growing prison population npk Apr 2014 #7

You can't force someone to seek treatment. upaloopa Apr 2014 #15

You can most certainly force those who been convicted of very violent crimes to treatment npk Apr 2014 #18

I know all that upaloopa Apr 2014 #23

Not just murderers. How about folks who train and strap a gun on before venturing out to the Hoyt Apr 2014 #4

Off topic, but, did you get my pm? wall_dish Apr 2014 #12

Look at the staging of the product shot xfundy Apr 2014 #21

Gun marketeers know what turns gun fanciers on. Ask them if their ad targets are demented. Hoyt Apr 2014 #22

Hah! I thought that too. Sad, isn't it. anneboleyn Apr 2014 #24

That's an idiotic ad. nt Deep13 Apr 2014 #28

No, absolutely not Bjorn Against Apr 2014 #6

Not saying all mentally ill people are killers npk Apr 2014 #9

That is not true. Bjorn Against Apr 2014 #14

No. Not at all. cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #8

OH MY HereSince1628 Apr 2014 #10

Ah, bringing me back to law school MosheFeingold Apr 2014 #11

The brain is an organ. xfundy Apr 2014 #16

'Fraid not. That leaves the vast majority off the hook much too easily. nt Hekate Apr 2014 #17

No, not all murderers are mentally ill. NuclearDem Apr 2014 #19

No. (nt) Glassunion Apr 2014 #20

Nope. The world is full of hunters... TeeYiYi Apr 2014 #25

No Go Vols Apr 2014 #26

No. Deep13 Apr 2014 #27

Really? I have a rich and varied fantasy life, it helped me to survive nursing Warpy Apr 2014 #29

People with "hair triggers" are often suffering from a disorder npk Apr 2014 #37

Yeah, keep moving those goalposts! Warpy Apr 2014 #39

Sociopathy is not a mental illness. It is a personality disorder. MoonRiver Apr 2014 #30

Many said no. darkangel218 Apr 2014 #31

Of course not. What about those who are cold, calculating, and greedy, Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #32

They are still suffering from a mental ilness if they put money above a human beign. darkangel218 Apr 2014 #33

I guess if being evil is considered a mental illness, Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #34

How else could you possibly explain it? darkangel218 Apr 2014 #36

You are totally wrong. MoonRiver Apr 2014 #35

I refuse to think thats the norm for my species. darkangel218 Apr 2014 #38

I don't know how old you are, but I was becoming aware of the extent of human depravity by about 40. MoonRiver Apr 2014 #41

No! I am no gun promoter--at all, but the instinct to protect oneself or loved ones hlthe2b Apr 2014 #40

Not for one-off murderers, CFLDem Apr 2014 #42