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Showing Original Post only (View all)Mother Of God... No Wonder The CIA Doesn't Want The Report To Come Out... [View all]
Detainees credentials also were exaggerated, officials said. Agency officials described Abu Zubaida as a senior al-Qaeda operative and, therefore, someone who warranted coercive techniques although experts later determined that he was essentially a facilitator who helped guide recruits to al-Qaeda training camps.
The CIA also oversold the role of Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri in the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole in Yemen, which killed 17 U.S. sailors. CIA officials claimed he was the mastermind.
The committee described a similar sequence in the interrogation of Hassan Ghul, an al-Qaeda operative who provided a critical lead in the search for bin Laden: the fact that the al-Qaeda leaders most trusted courier used the moniker al-Kuwaiti.
But Ghul disclosed that detail while being interrogated by Kurdish authorities in northern Iraq who posed questions scripted by CIA analysts. The information from that period was subsequently conflated with lesser intelligence gathered from Ghul at a secret CIA prison in Romania, officials said. Ghul was later turned over to authorities in Pakistan, where he was subsequently released. He was killed by a CIA drone strike in 2012.
The CIA also oversold the role of Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri in the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole in Yemen, which killed 17 U.S. sailors. CIA officials claimed he was the mastermind.
The committee described a similar sequence in the interrogation of Hassan Ghul, an al-Qaeda operative who provided a critical lead in the search for bin Laden: the fact that the al-Qaeda leaders most trusted courier used the moniker al-Kuwaiti.
But Ghul disclosed that detail while being interrogated by Kurdish authorities in northern Iraq who posed questions scripted by CIA analysts. The information from that period was subsequently conflated with lesser intelligence gathered from Ghul at a secret CIA prison in Romania, officials said. Ghul was later turned over to authorities in Pakistan, where he was subsequently released. He was killed by a CIA drone strike in 2012.
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Two other terrorism suspects, from Libya Mohammed al-Shoroeiya and Khalid al-Sharif endured similar treatment at Salt Pit, according to Human Rights Watch. One of the men said CIA interrogators would pour buckets of very cold water over his nose and mouth to the point that he felt he would suffocate. Icy cold water was also poured over his body. He said it happened over and over again, the report says. CIA doctors monitored the prisoners body temperatures so they wouldnt suffer hypothermia.
The CIA denies waterboarding them and says it used the technique on only three prisoners.
The two men were held at Salt Pit at the same time as Baluchi, according to former U.S. intelligence officials.
Officials said a former CIA interrogator named Charlie Wise was forced to retire in 2003 after being suspected of abusing Abu Zubaida using a broomstick as a ballast while he was forced to kneel in a stress position. Wise was also implicated in the abuse at Salt Pit. He died of a heart attack shortly after retiring from the CIA, former U.S. intelligence officials said.
The CIA denies waterboarding them and says it used the technique on only three prisoners.
The two men were held at Salt Pit at the same time as Baluchi, according to former U.S. intelligence officials.
Officials said a former CIA interrogator named Charlie Wise was forced to retire in 2003 after being suspected of abusing Abu Zubaida using a broomstick as a ballast while he was forced to kneel in a stress position. Wise was also implicated in the abuse at Salt Pit. He died of a heart attack shortly after retiring from the CIA, former U.S. intelligence officials said.
From: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/cia-misled-on-interrogation-program-senate-report-says/2014/03/31/eb75a82a-b8dd-11e3-96ae-f2c36d2b1245_story.html
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WillyT
Apr 2014
OP
Agreed. I think that you would find a CIA doctor in a group of college campus conservatives but
DhhD
Apr 2014
#96
The term "whistle-blower" comes to mind, not to mention "ethics," "morality," "war crimes," etc.
WinkyDink
Apr 2014
#18
Guantanamo docs were as compassionate as Josef Mengeles & the Nazi death camp doctors.
Divernan
Apr 2014
#39
I remember back during the Bush years this issue was raised. Doctors 'monitoring torture'. NO doctor
sabrina 1
Apr 2014
#9
The people who authorized this are well known even though one was fond of bunkers.
gordianot
Apr 2014
#3
President Obama may decide to pardon the top level war criminals for political reasons or whatever,
rhett o rick
Apr 2014
#6
I guess I missed your point. I clearly said that Pres Obama may pardon the War Criminals
rhett o rick
Apr 2014
#101
Boy, you can't engage in a little random hyperbole here without someone getting snippy
Fumesucker
Apr 2014
#17
When the claim is made that the "CIA misled" the govt. & public about torture
Solly Mack
Apr 2014
#25
Kinda like the process of being "jumped out" if someone wants to leave a gang. nt
tblue37
Apr 2014
#87
There is no defense and such a breach goes so far beyond the pale that I don't know if
TheKentuckian
Apr 2014
#46
I don't know and I don't like what it implies about the collective "us" to allow it.
TheKentuckian
Apr 2014
#56
No wonder there were so many 2nd and 3rds and top officials of Al-quaeda. nt
kelliekat44
Apr 2014
#43
Absolutely, they know it too but the politics are too messy so they are inclined to just double down
TheKentuckian
Apr 2014
#99
If this is "government" or an acceptable policy for it's toolbox then trust should be low.
TheKentuckian
Apr 2014
#106
Atonement would be great but they need to stop patting themselves on the back for being "pragmatic"
TheKentuckian
Apr 2014
#108
You're welcome. Scott Horton is an excellent source, he does not write as often lately for Harpers,
Jefferson23
Apr 2014
#82