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33. There will be no looking forward

Fri Apr 4, 2014, 12:25 PM

Apr 2014

until these horrific abuses are addressed and authorities who allowed or called for such activities are held accountible. This is not something a nation just walks away from. Already seeing a loss of moral authority in the eyes of the world.

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Mother Of God... No Wonder The CIA Doesn't Want The Report To Come Out... [View all] WillyT Apr 2014 OP

What kind of doctor could stand by and watch torture? LiberalEsto Apr 2014 #1

A very good point. Sounds like a clear violation. riqster Apr 2014 #2

Cheney's men Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2014 #70

Just tossing out this thought. enlightenment Apr 2014 #4

I'd have to put these complicit doctors marions ghost Apr 2014 #10

Could be. enlightenment Apr 2014 #15

Unless I hear personal testimony marions ghost Apr 2014 #20

Okay. enlightenment Apr 2014 #21

I get that marions ghost Apr 2014 #55

Exactly. Raksha Apr 2014 #75

Thx marions ghost Apr 2014 #77

Agreed. I think that you would find a CIA doctor in a group of college campus conservatives but DhhD Apr 2014 #96

They would marions ghost Apr 2014 #103

Bet they were paid a pretty penny too. ReRe Apr 2014 #86

You can't torture a dead person. They are kept alive so they can be tortured. alfredo Apr 2014 #97

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You're entitled to your opinion. enlightenment Apr 2014 #13

You're not outraged enuff ! stonecutter357 Apr 2014 #35

The term "whistle-blower" comes to mind, not to mention "ethics," "morality," "war crimes," etc. WinkyDink Apr 2014 #18

surely you have heard of war crimes? the Nuremberg trials? No? Demeter Apr 2014 #32

Pretty strong response. enlightenment Apr 2014 #45

I remember reading something about psychopaths arikara Apr 2014 #37

It is entirely possible enlightenment Apr 2014 #47

Guantanamo docs were as compassionate as Josef Mengeles & the Nazi death camp doctors. Divernan Apr 2014 #39

Okay. nt enlightenment Apr 2014 #48

Not just to be argumentative, but there are other ways to view these doctors erronis Apr 2014 #71

Interesting angle... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2014 #72

I would say that delrem Apr 2014 #85

I remember back during the Bush years this issue was raised. Doctors 'monitoring torture'. NO doctor sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #9

There will be no looking forward JEB Apr 2014 #33

They should not only lose their license but they should be in jail. Auntie Bush Apr 2014 #26

"These doctors should lose their medical licenses." Enthusiast Apr 2014 #40

The AMA code of ethics prohibits doctors' invlvement in torture LiberalEsto Apr 2014 #63

That is pretty clear. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #92

The Nazis had doctors, too. thecrow Apr 2014 #60

I wouldn't be surprised nt LiberalEsto Apr 2014 #64

A sadistic doctor? Helen Borg Apr 2014 #68

Probably a dentist. AtheistCrusader Apr 2014 #69

Haha!! Maynar Apr 2014 #84

Isn't there something about BlueMTexpat Apr 2014 #90

The people who authorized this are well known even though one was fond of bunkers. gordianot Apr 2014 #3

I wish there really was a heaven and hell Z_California Apr 2014 #5

President Obama may decide to pardon the top level war criminals for political reasons or whatever, rhett o rick Apr 2014 #6

Can you name the pardon he's issued? nt msanthrope Apr 2014 #16

Ralph. rhett o rick Apr 2014 #28

I haven't seen any pardons issued. BlueMTexpat Apr 2014 #91

I guess I missed your point. I clearly said that Pres Obama may pardon the War Criminals rhett o rick Apr 2014 #101

We can take comfort in the fact that Putin is more recent Fumesucker Apr 2014 #7

Do you have any news reports on Putin torturing prisoners? JDPriestly Apr 2014 #11

Boy, you can't engage in a little random hyperbole here without someone getting snippy Fumesucker Apr 2014 #17

He didn't even look under his desk! WinkyDink Apr 2014 #19

lol! DocMac Apr 2014 #24

Shock 'n awe is essential in a proper invasion. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #41

Pussy Riot. nt Mnemosyne Apr 2014 #22

Kick! Heidi Apr 2014 #8

The US justice system is sooooo last century anyway. L0oniX Apr 2014 #14

"says it used the technique on only three prisoners" progressoid Apr 2014 #23

When the claim is made that the "CIA misled" the govt. & public about torture Solly Mack Apr 2014 #25

Excellent questions marions ghost Apr 2014 #102

I said while Bush was still in office that an effort would be made to rush Solly Mack Apr 2014 #105

There is a lot of studies on who tortures and why Ichingcarpenter Apr 2014 #27

I think the CIA has probably octoberlib Apr 2014 #29

The CIA has also been helping other nations do it Scootaloo Apr 2014 #51

they even ordered Americans killed MisterP Apr 2014 #57

indeed justabob Apr 2014 #62

, blkmusclmachine Apr 2014 #30

"We need to look forward..." The audacity of covering up crimes. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #31

"Detainees� credentials also were exaggerated, officials said" catchnrelease Apr 2014 #34

doesn't anyone think it suspicious that the interrogator died... grasswire Apr 2014 #36

I thought the very same. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #42

Seems like a dangerous business to be in, even more so if you try and leave. nt. Rex Apr 2014 #58

Kinda like the process of being "jumped out" if someone wants to leave a gang. nt tblue37 Apr 2014 #87

Exactly like that! Rex Apr 2014 #98

They raped a little boy in front of his father to get him to talk.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #38

They claim they did this for our country. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #44

"Fightin' for White Supremacy" is more like it.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #53

Oh, I agree completely. The freedom talk is complete nonsense. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #54

As is often the case, Bruce Cockburn lyrics are apt: Maedhros Apr 2014 #67

Thank you, Maedhros. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #93

There is no defense and such a breach goes so far beyond the pale that I don't know if TheKentuckian Apr 2014 #46

how is it that we allow these people the comforts of our society? grasswire Apr 2014 #50

I don't know and I don't like what it implies about the collective "us" to allow it. TheKentuckian Apr 2014 #56

Thank you! Very well said, and I agree with all of it. Raksha Apr 2014 #78

I suspect that anyone who pushes too hard to bring the most powerful tblue37 Apr 2014 #88

No wonder there were so many 2nd and 3rds and top officials of Al-quaeda. nt kelliekat44 Apr 2014 #43

My it sure is odd how former CIA workers end up dead from natural causes. Rex Apr 2014 #49

"He died of a heart attack shortly after retiring from the CIA..." warrprayer Apr 2014 #52

Senator Wyden says we'll be "profoundly disturbed" by this report. neverforget Apr 2014 #59

No, I doubt they will "get" anyone. nt tblue37 Apr 2014 #89

Thanks for posting, WillyT BelgianMadCow Apr 2014 #61

You Are Quite Welcome !!! WillyT Apr 2014 #65

k&r Soylent Brice Apr 2014 #66

What better illustration could there be Bonobo Apr 2014 #73

Speaking Of Which... Did You See This: WillyT Apr 2014 #74

Holy fuck...and here is something to add to that from my POV. Bonobo Apr 2014 #76

Absolutely, they know it too but the politics are too messy so they are inclined to just double down TheKentuckian Apr 2014 #99

Also marions ghost Apr 2014 #104

If this is "government" or an acceptable policy for it's toolbox then trust should be low. TheKentuckian Apr 2014 #106

I think that's what we're fighting about marions ghost Apr 2014 #107

Atonement would be great but they need to stop patting themselves on the back for being "pragmatic" TheKentuckian Apr 2014 #108

True marions ghost Apr 2014 #109

Professional sadists, allowed to run amok for at least 5 or 6 years. TwilightGardener Apr 2014 #79

Have you ever read The Torture Doctors, Willy? Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #80

Printing It Now... Thank You !!! WillyT Apr 2014 #81

You're welcome. Scott Horton is an excellent source, he does not write as often lately for Harpers, Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #82

Well that sort of kicks the legs out from under the JoeyT Apr 2014 #83

private contractors of Titan and Casi sdougreid Apr 2014 #94

"he died of a heart attack shortly after retiring from the CIA." HMMMMM secondwind Apr 2014 #95

Sounds to me like he was Spooked to death. drokhole Apr 2014 #100