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In reply to the discussion: Mother Of God... No Wonder The CIA Doesn't Want The Report To Come Out... [View all]Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)80. Have you ever read The Torture Doctors, Willy?
An expert panel concludes that the Pentagon and the CIA ordered physicians to violate the Hippocratic Oath
By Scott Horton
The Hippocratic corpus, which requires that a physician first do no harm to his patient, lies at the heart of medical ethics. Now, an important independent study of the conduct of doctors engaged by the CIA and Defense Department at the Guantánamo Bay detention facility has concluded that the U.S. government forced these doctors to systematically violate their oaths by aiding in the torture and abuse of patients in their care. The study also makes clear that CIA and Defense Department officials were conscious of the ethics guidelines their policies would violate, and took measures to exempt medical professionals in their service from ethics requirements. The DoD and CIA also consistently refused to cooperate with state ethics boards investigating the unethical conduct of physicians at Guantánamo, effectively leaving the boards unable to act.
The two-year study, whose findings were issued in a report called Ethics Abandoned: Medical Professionalism and Detainee Abuse in the War on Terror, was conducted by the Institute on Medicine as a Profession at Columbia University, and was supervised by a board of nineteen preeminent physicians, lawyers, and health-policy experts. After extensively surveying publicly available information, the reports authors concluded that health professionals at Guantánamo had designed and participated in cruel, inhumane and degrading treatment and torture of detainees.
The report acknowledges that the Obama Administration has made changes to the Guantánamo system, but expresses serious concerns about systematic and ongoing ethics lapses in the detention centers notorious force-feeding program. The Pentagon, it notes, continues to follow policies that undermine standards of professional conduct with respect to interrogation, hunger strikes, and the reporting of abuse. Doctors and nurses at Gitmo are required to participate in the force-feeding of detainees, who are placed in extensive bodily restraints for up to two hours twice a day, which the reports authors conclude (as the American Medical Association did earlier this year) violates basic ethical rules.
The report leaves little doubt that intelligence services and the Pentagon have offered doctors a sort of pact, amounting to: Leave your professional ethics behind when you come to work with us, and torture your patients if we ask you to. In exchange, we will keep quiet about what youve done, and will ensure that the ethics bodies responsible for policing the medical profession wont get the evidence they need to act against you. What this equation leaves out, of course, is the patients both those who were abused, and the ones these doctors might treat in the future, who have a right to know who is treating them. A doctor who is willing to torture his patients can hardly be counted upon to render the highest standards of professional care, even without the CIA standing over his or her shoulder. Or, as one of the studys researchers, Columbia University professor of medicine Gerald Thomson, put it:
http://harpers.org/blog/2013/11/the-torture-doctors-2/
By Scott Horton
The Hippocratic corpus, which requires that a physician first do no harm to his patient, lies at the heart of medical ethics. Now, an important independent study of the conduct of doctors engaged by the CIA and Defense Department at the Guantánamo Bay detention facility has concluded that the U.S. government forced these doctors to systematically violate their oaths by aiding in the torture and abuse of patients in their care. The study also makes clear that CIA and Defense Department officials were conscious of the ethics guidelines their policies would violate, and took measures to exempt medical professionals in their service from ethics requirements. The DoD and CIA also consistently refused to cooperate with state ethics boards investigating the unethical conduct of physicians at Guantánamo, effectively leaving the boards unable to act.
The two-year study, whose findings were issued in a report called Ethics Abandoned: Medical Professionalism and Detainee Abuse in the War on Terror, was conducted by the Institute on Medicine as a Profession at Columbia University, and was supervised by a board of nineteen preeminent physicians, lawyers, and health-policy experts. After extensively surveying publicly available information, the reports authors concluded that health professionals at Guantánamo had designed and participated in cruel, inhumane and degrading treatment and torture of detainees.
The report acknowledges that the Obama Administration has made changes to the Guantánamo system, but expresses serious concerns about systematic and ongoing ethics lapses in the detention centers notorious force-feeding program. The Pentagon, it notes, continues to follow policies that undermine standards of professional conduct with respect to interrogation, hunger strikes, and the reporting of abuse. Doctors and nurses at Gitmo are required to participate in the force-feeding of detainees, who are placed in extensive bodily restraints for up to two hours twice a day, which the reports authors conclude (as the American Medical Association did earlier this year) violates basic ethical rules.
The report leaves little doubt that intelligence services and the Pentagon have offered doctors a sort of pact, amounting to: Leave your professional ethics behind when you come to work with us, and torture your patients if we ask you to. In exchange, we will keep quiet about what youve done, and will ensure that the ethics bodies responsible for policing the medical profession wont get the evidence they need to act against you. What this equation leaves out, of course, is the patients both those who were abused, and the ones these doctors might treat in the future, who have a right to know who is treating them. A doctor who is willing to torture his patients can hardly be counted upon to render the highest standards of professional care, even without the CIA standing over his or her shoulder. Or, as one of the studys researchers, Columbia University professor of medicine Gerald Thomson, put it:
http://harpers.org/blog/2013/11/the-torture-doctors-2/
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Mother Of God... No Wonder The CIA Doesn't Want The Report To Come Out... [View all]
WillyT
Apr 2014
OP
Agreed. I think that you would find a CIA doctor in a group of college campus conservatives but
DhhD
Apr 2014
#96
The term "whistle-blower" comes to mind, not to mention "ethics," "morality," "war crimes," etc.
WinkyDink
Apr 2014
#18
Guantanamo docs were as compassionate as Josef Mengeles & the Nazi death camp doctors.
Divernan
Apr 2014
#39
I remember back during the Bush years this issue was raised. Doctors 'monitoring torture'. NO doctor
sabrina 1
Apr 2014
#9
The people who authorized this are well known even though one was fond of bunkers.
gordianot
Apr 2014
#3
President Obama may decide to pardon the top level war criminals for political reasons or whatever,
rhett o rick
Apr 2014
#6
I guess I missed your point. I clearly said that Pres Obama may pardon the War Criminals
rhett o rick
Apr 2014
#101
Boy, you can't engage in a little random hyperbole here without someone getting snippy
Fumesucker
Apr 2014
#17
When the claim is made that the "CIA misled" the govt. & public about torture
Solly Mack
Apr 2014
#25
Kinda like the process of being "jumped out" if someone wants to leave a gang. nt
tblue37
Apr 2014
#87
There is no defense and such a breach goes so far beyond the pale that I don't know if
TheKentuckian
Apr 2014
#46
I don't know and I don't like what it implies about the collective "us" to allow it.
TheKentuckian
Apr 2014
#56
No wonder there were so many 2nd and 3rds and top officials of Al-quaeda. nt
kelliekat44
Apr 2014
#43
Absolutely, they know it too but the politics are too messy so they are inclined to just double down
TheKentuckian
Apr 2014
#99
If this is "government" or an acceptable policy for it's toolbox then trust should be low.
TheKentuckian
Apr 2014
#106
Atonement would be great but they need to stop patting themselves on the back for being "pragmatic"
TheKentuckian
Apr 2014
#108
You're welcome. Scott Horton is an excellent source, he does not write as often lately for Harpers,
Jefferson23
Apr 2014
#82