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ProfessorGAC

(76,787 posts)
60. Where Do I Stand?
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 01:37 AM
Apr 2014

I think there are structural changes taking place. Not to a pace that moves the needle just yet, but perhaps stopping the needle from moving further in the wrong direction.

Expanding an insurance field to a larger population is a fundamental shift. Normal microeconomics suggests that this should lower cost of coverage for the population overall.

Do we need more regulation to assure that as more revenues hit the insurers, prices don't get fixed to prevent the natural reduction in cost? Absolutely!

Is it as good as single payer or Medicare for all solution? Absolutely not! Still a step in the right direction.

There hasn't been (until the buffoon Paul Ryan's fraudulent budget proposal) talk about lowering taxes on the wealthiest. This is only the second time in 35 years that this wasn't a major point of discussion. This is another fundamental shift in the political zeitgeist. This is even more important in a period of slow recovery and modest job growth. The "job creator" meme has less traction than it would have 10 or 12 or 20 or 25 years ago. Oh, it's still out there amongst the crazies, but nobody but the other crazies are actually listening, so it goes in one ear and out the other. There is nobody in the body politic that actually takes that talk seriously, unless it's some member of the radical right or the randians.

Banking regulation is at it's highest level of intensity since the 1960's. As a member of the board on a large credit union, i can attest to that personally. The scrutiny of the regulatory audits is more intense than at any time in my 25 years in this post. That's another fundamental shift. The things a bank can do without raising a regulator's eyebrow are far and few between.

The hyperconcentration of wealth is still a problem. No doubt about that. Unlimited cash giving to candidates is a problem too. That however, is not a stroke of the pen dilemma. It's now law with highest judicial imprimatur bestowed. And, that is really just a more transparent version of what's been going on for the last 50 years. At least we know who the monied interests in the smoke filled rooms are now.

Finally, i think there is little wrong with seeing the practicum of poliltical change. It doesn't make one an apologist or a cheerleader. The litmus test here that seeing the good makes one less of a liberal or progressive is unbecoming on a board that generally speaking is full of thoughtful educated folks.

When i see the "with us or against us" or the "if you don't come down hard, you're a cheerleader" sentiment, i argue the opposite.

There's an old saying "if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem". I actually think that's always been a bit inside out. I think in most of these politically driven differences of opinion, "if you're not part of the problem, you ARE part of the solution". If we agree in overall principal and want the same things ultimately, backbiting and diminishment are a bigger problem than the disagreement over method.

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In the face of these wage declines, why is the primary concern what people think of Obama? cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #1
The OP is about both policy and political reality. DanTex Apr 2014 #2
MUST PROTECT OBAMA Capt. Obvious Apr 2014 #3
That explains much Fumesucker Apr 2014 #5
S'rly Capt. Obvious Apr 2014 #8
it's ODS Skittles Apr 2014 #47
MUST PROTECT FACTS. ProSense Apr 2014 #6
What "wage declines"? ProSense Apr 2014 #4
You are intentionally using figures unadjusted for inflation??? cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #14
"Adjusted for inflation, they were up 1.2% MoM and 2.4% YoY." ProSense Apr 2014 #18
Why do you say that when ProSense provided a chart with both real and nominal figures? stevenleser Apr 2014 #21
Prosense is referring to a trend in the last month/year, which is small in comparison to what is DireStrike Apr 2014 #53
Nonsense. The trend has been upward for the last three years. The chart shows that. n/t ProSense Apr 2014 #56
Yes, if you squint really hard you can see a very minor increase in real wages DireStrike Apr 2014 #58
I think the problem that many have.... NCTraveler Apr 2014 #7
Disagree, and ProSense Apr 2014 #9
I get that you disagree. NCTraveler Apr 2014 #10
Well, ProSense Apr 2014 #11
"...I expected dismissal, and your comment flies in the face of the reality." NCTraveler Apr 2014 #13
I most ProSense Apr 2014 #17
Prosense, you have not come close to making the case that this is fundamental and structural change. NCTraveler Apr 2014 #22
Pure nonsense ProSense Apr 2014 #26
How is it fundamental and structural change to the economy? NCTraveler Apr 2014 #27
What the hell? ProSense Apr 2014 #28
Nonsense. NCTraveler Apr 2014 #30
You really ProSense Apr 2014 #33
You're Just Being Obstinate ProfessorGAC Apr 2014 #40
A couple of things. NCTraveler Apr 2014 #45
It's not ProSense Apr 2014 #49
Where Do I Stand? ProfessorGAC Apr 2014 #60
Well, I'm not sure what you mean by "fundamental and structural change". DanTex Apr 2014 #36
"it seems more like vague generalities rather than specific policy objections" NCTraveler Apr 2014 #38
I agree with a lot of what you say. DanTex Apr 2014 #50
The baseline needs to be the crash of 2008. CJCRANE Apr 2014 #12
Raising the minimum wage won't have any effect on the median income, will it? Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2014 #15
Not really. Increasing the minimum wage improves the safety net, but doesn't help most of us. reformist2 Apr 2014 #19
see my post right below cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #24
Good point. But I don't think 50% of workers are making $10 or less. Maybe 25-30% of workers. reformist2 Apr 2014 #25
Yes, the pressure from the artificial floor should decrease somewhat as you go up, but cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #31
Surely it would shift the median line to the right? CJCRANE Apr 2014 #20
I don't believe so. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2014 #32
I'm not a statistician but that doesn't make sense to me. CJCRANE Apr 2014 #34
The median is the income of the middle person. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2014 #35
I think it's the middle value, not the middle person. CJCRANE Apr 2014 #37
The middle value is the value of the middle person. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2014 #41
If you have 300 million people then the middle person is #150 million. CJCRANE Apr 2014 #43
And the median income is that person's income. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2014 #46
OK, as per my edit above I think you are right on that point CJCRANE Apr 2014 #48
It will affect more than 50% of wages, surely. Arguably 100%. cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #23
As cthulu pointed out, it would likely have indirect impact on wages beyond just DanTex Apr 2014 #57
Proud to be the first to rec this. Obama has fought HARD for the minimum wage Cali_Democrat Apr 2014 #16
Even with median income going up, everything you listed should happen. randome Apr 2014 #29
And here I thought this was going to be a thread about issues Marrah_G Apr 2014 #39
Short Fuse? ProfessorGAC Apr 2014 #42
Not just this one Marrah_G Apr 2014 #44
they're getting worse, aren't they? Skittles Apr 2014 #51
Yes Marrah_G Apr 2014 #52
It's unfortunate that you are going to ignore me instead of engaging. DanTex Apr 2014 #55
she, as am I, is simply fed up with it Skittles Apr 2014 #59
k&r n/t RainDog Apr 2014 #54
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