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In reply to the discussion: Marshall Brain: We are about to see a seismic shift in the American workforce [View all]
And how is the Government going to create jobs? How will we replace the current batch of jobs lost by automation?
If I had a clear cut answer for that right now, I would be a millionaire and a genius. I don't have the answer because I don't know what technologies will be created in the future. However, just like in the past, new technology opens up new avenues for jobs. One such example - with the creation of the internet, sites like Craigslist have been making people a lot of money. If you're handy, and can make dolls, for instance, the internet has increased your customer-base to everyone you can ship to.
We need a new industry that creates a ton of jobs - no such thing is coming. We're pretty much at the end of the evolutionary road when it comes to new types of jobs. Of course if anyone thinks I'm wrong, please feel free to show us the new job booms.
How can you make such a claim? That's like claiming, in the 1900's, "Business will always be this way. We will always have local businesses! Nothing new is ever going to come in the future!" In the 1800's - "We will always go around by horseback! We are at the end of our evolutionary road when it comes to travel! Might as well invest in horses in the future, because in 2100, we'll still be riding horses!" I also heard people having the opinion that we will never leave earth to colonize somewhere else, even after 10,000 years have passed. Why? How could we possibly know that?
What new set of skills do you think will be needed by the tens of millions of currently jobless and many more future jobless Americans?
If I knew the answer to that, I would invest in that industry and become a billionaire.
All that free time is useless when you don't have any money to buy anything.
Here's what makes no sense about this - if nobody has any money, why would companies pursue that business plan? So that their shelves can be full of items that nobody can buy? That doesn't make any sense.
Automation is turning out more like this, actually:
http://marshallbrain.com/manna1.htm
If a system can do something better than a human, than it's definitely preferable. This is especially true with surgery, for example. You want that done accurately and with precision - machines offer a form of precision that humans cannot give.
The future will be nothing like that story - in fact, that's why its fiction - it's supposed to be out of the ordinary and exaggerated. Why do construction companies not build homes out of sticks and dirt now? Why do the police not mandate that every phone installed in houses must be tapped so that all communication must be monitored? Why is there not a camera on every street corner right now? Because no one wants it. In the future, nobody will want it either. They may have robots building their houses, but they will demand quality. They won't want crappy "terrafoam" houses that fall apart at the drop of a hat. There's no demand for that.
A cash register telling an employee to say "thank you" is hardly a big deal. The manager could just tell them that anyways.
If I had a clear cut answer for that right now, I would be a millionaire and a genius. I don't have the answer because I don't know what technologies will be created in the future. However, just like in the past, new technology opens up new avenues for jobs. One such example - with the creation of the internet, sites like Craigslist have been making people a lot of money. If you're handy, and can make dolls, for instance, the internet has increased your customer-base to everyone you can ship to.
We need a new industry that creates a ton of jobs - no such thing is coming. We're pretty much at the end of the evolutionary road when it comes to new types of jobs. Of course if anyone thinks I'm wrong, please feel free to show us the new job booms.
How can you make such a claim? That's like claiming, in the 1900's, "Business will always be this way. We will always have local businesses! Nothing new is ever going to come in the future!" In the 1800's - "We will always go around by horseback! We are at the end of our evolutionary road when it comes to travel! Might as well invest in horses in the future, because in 2100, we'll still be riding horses!" I also heard people having the opinion that we will never leave earth to colonize somewhere else, even after 10,000 years have passed. Why? How could we possibly know that?
What new set of skills do you think will be needed by the tens of millions of currently jobless and many more future jobless Americans?
If I knew the answer to that, I would invest in that industry and become a billionaire.
All that free time is useless when you don't have any money to buy anything.
Here's what makes no sense about this - if nobody has any money, why would companies pursue that business plan? So that their shelves can be full of items that nobody can buy? That doesn't make any sense.
Automation is turning out more like this, actually:
http://marshallbrain.com/manna1.htm
If a system can do something better than a human, than it's definitely preferable. This is especially true with surgery, for example. You want that done accurately and with precision - machines offer a form of precision that humans cannot give.
The future will be nothing like that story - in fact, that's why its fiction - it's supposed to be out of the ordinary and exaggerated. Why do construction companies not build homes out of sticks and dirt now? Why do the police not mandate that every phone installed in houses must be tapped so that all communication must be monitored? Why is there not a camera on every street corner right now? Because no one wants it. In the future, nobody will want it either. They may have robots building their houses, but they will demand quality. They won't want crappy "terrafoam" houses that fall apart at the drop of a hat. There's no demand for that.
A cash register telling an employee to say "thank you" is hardly a big deal. The manager could just tell them that anyways.
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Marshall Brain: We are about to see a seismic shift in the American workforce [View all]
txlibdem
Mar 2012
OP
Exactly. I was at Home Depot one day and the self checkouts were empty. Some salesperson asked me
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2012
#40
I politely decline and tell then why. I don't check myself out to save their jobs.
Vincardog
Mar 2012
#50
We people have the power. I wouldn't use these kinds of systems. I will not shop in this
southernyankeebelle
Mar 2012
#4
Basically why I don't use any except the self-serve gas station. That's because
sinkingfeeling
Mar 2012
#8
Here in Oregon, there is no such thing as self-serve gas. They pump. Always.
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2012
#17
I don't think I can drive the 1000 to 2000 miles to either NJ or Oregon to buy gas!
sinkingfeeling
Mar 2012
#48
The other big problem is we're depleting our resources, and so is the rest of the world. nt
Selatius
Mar 2012
#80
Good! You know, it'd be good if everyone who didn't participate in it, spoke to the store mgr and
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2012
#32
I looked and looked and finally found the perfect chaises..Sam Moore furniture
SoCalDem
Mar 2012
#35
Awesome!! Vera Bradley manufactures only in the U.S. - and for those who can't afford them...
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2012
#39
I think we're going to have to start actually asking where they manufacture things, you know?
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2012
#49
Don't hold your breath, those massive increaes in productitivity go to buy the CEO another
Ikonoklast
Mar 2012
#24
Everybody ignores how this technology will also make our lives tons times better.
chrisa
Mar 2012
#51
What new jobs will be created? Nothing. There'll simply be fewer jobs and more unemployed.
Zalatix
Mar 2012
#52
That argument is a bit moot if the government won't even allocate funds for job training programs.
Selatius
Mar 2012
#81