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Nye Bevan

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17. See, this is why I agree with the Citizens United decision but not the McCutcheon decision.

Sat Apr 5, 2014, 01:00 PM

Apr 2014

Citizens United = I can spend a million dollars of my own money taking out advertising that says why women should have sex with me.
McCutcheon = I can give a woman a lot of money in exchange for her agreeing to have sex with me.
First is legal (I am spending my own money to engage in free speech). Second is not.

Another example. I am stopped and arrested for dangerous driving.
Citizens United = I can spend a lot of my own money pleading my case and publicizing what a great guy I am and why they should go easy on me.
McCutcheon = I can pay a million dollars to the prosecutors in exchange for them dropping the case.
First is legal free speech; second is bribery.

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Dems need an illustrative court case. Man caught paying prostitute claims his money is 'Free Speech' [View all] blm Apr 2014 OP

I know if I am ever facing prison time, I'm gonna use the "I wouldn't do well in prison" notadmblnd Apr 2014 #1

Or you could give the judge a "donation"...you know, so you can express yourself more emphatically. dorkzilla Apr 2014 #18

"fare well". 'fare' is a 1% word. n/t PoliticAverse Apr 2014 #26

I'm torn between using that one or the more heart-wrenching "I'm a rich, spoiled-rotten brat". pacalo Apr 2014 #29

We need volunteers. blm Apr 2014 #2

And manage the headlines and news coverage, to boot. AlbertCat Apr 2014 #7

What we need it the kind of funding that the RW has. Massive amounts of cash are donated and used Dark n Stormy Knight Apr 2014 #28

Wow. Why not. Stryder Apr 2014 #3

My husband is now working on his masters in communications and agreed it would be effective blm Apr 2014 #4

Equal protection Clause... PeoViejo Apr 2014 #5

I think there are a host of crimes like this that are now in question. Bribery, hiring hit men, stevenleser Apr 2014 #6

Which is exactly why this needs to be pursued. The 'crime' I use is easily understood by masses and blm Apr 2014 #8

What if they were to become corporations? Zambero Apr 2014 #11

That's even better. Didn't an activist 'become' a corporation after Citizens United? blm Apr 2014 #12

What is the gender of a corporation? Can mergers be disallowed in states that alfredo Apr 2014 #15

I think the OPs is probably the best route. JoeyT Apr 2014 #30

exactly blm Apr 2014 #32

Ha ha! Source? snot Apr 2014 #9

My head - I came up with the idea this morning. RNC would do it in a second blm Apr 2014 #10

So...Buying marijuana in a state without that being legal is.... Half-Century Man Apr 2014 #13

A guy buys a gun, so he was using his money (free speech) to pay for it. He then alfredo Apr 2014 #14

It's okay if you're 1% Demeter Apr 2014 #16

See, this is why I agree with the Citizens United decision but not the McCutcheon decision. Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #17

No, ProSense Apr 2014 #23

"No corporation shall publish a web page critical of any election candidate Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #24

Actually McCutcheon allows limits on direct contributions to candidates and doesn't negate your PoliticAverse Apr 2014 #27

Hopefully this will not change the subject here but I have a question. If we manage to get the House jwirr Apr 2014 #19

Sorry, but there is absolutely a difference skepticscott Apr 2014 #20

Well, others may have plausible arguments to counter that. blm Apr 2014 #21

"Others may"? skepticscott Apr 2014 #25

Nope - I meant that legal arguments by those legal minds interested in forming a case as a strategic blm Apr 2014 #31

And yet you still call them "plausible arguments" skepticscott Apr 2014 #33

Wonder away - I am pretty certain I needn't wonder about you. blm Apr 2014 #34

I think they already considered similar counters and TheKentuckian Apr 2014 #22

If you were paying a prostitute to give a political speech this would make sense. cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #35