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Blue_Tires

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48. yes, but

Tue Mar 27, 2012, 01:09 PM

Mar 2012

1. The validity of Zimmerman's injuries are easily determined...There will be a record of treating a broken nose, and a "smashed head" would, uh, pretty much have killed him (remember these are the meme terms everyone is parroting)

2. I was listing that more as a universal denial versus a botched/covered up/complicit police investigation

3+4. I've said from the start that Zimmerman made himself the aggressor and put Martin on defense by following him in his truck (it's not like he had the brains to be subtle about it), and Zimmerman is nothing but a strange weirdo as far as Martin is concerned...By the time Zimmerman gets out the truck to accost Martin (for god knows what reason), Martin's psyche is already in 'fight or flee' mode (as would any normal person's)...Now, I don't know if that is enough to settle the legal arguement based on Florida law, OR if what Zimmerman did can be legally considered as harassment/intimidation, but it can NOT be simply disregarded as people are trying to do..

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You're welcome :) n/t Tx4obama Mar 2012 #10

K&R Blue_Roses Mar 2012 #3

Zimmerman probably won't take the stand. JDPriestly Mar 2012 #4

He will CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #21

He got out of the car and confronted Martin. That gave Martin the right to kill Zimmerman saras Mar 2012 #38

Yes, you are correct. tabatha Mar 2012 #39

Outside the grand jury, where the evidence will JDPriestly Mar 2012 #42

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Valid points CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #77

except for a couple of points magical thyme Mar 2012 #79

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then we have 2 people who were not where they were supposed to be magical thyme Mar 2012 #91

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I do not know. CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #89

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I was SHOCKED that Matthews let the "goon is endearment" statement go K Gardner Mar 2012 #36

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We all need a little break from time to time :) Tx4obama Mar 2012 #11

ALEC and NRA "Self-Defense Law" Iliyah Mar 2012 #9

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I can LOL snooper2 Mar 2012 #34

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shameful... Blue_Tires Mar 2012 #33

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I take you slept throught the past few weeks? GoCubsGo Mar 2012 #66

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