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ibegurpard

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54. flu vaccine should not be equated with the standard vaccines

Sun Apr 6, 2014, 11:03 PM

Apr 2014

that are given to children. A flu vaccine is a crapshoot...you don't know whether or not it's going to work against whatever strains may be going around. The vaccines against various other diseases we know are going to work.

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Report: Anti-vaxers gain momentum in the US [View all] davidn3600 Apr 2014 OP

Hee's the horrible truth doxydad Apr 2014 #1

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2014 #3

My husband was NOT around children with Chicken Pox HockeyMom Apr 2014 #6

Children are fomites. i.e., disease spreaders mainer Apr 2014 #8

My husband probably has a weakened immune system HockeyMom Apr 2014 #12

The shingles vaccine is readily available and if you're over 60 SheilaT Apr 2014 #33

There is a shingles vaccine MurrayDelph Apr 2014 #35

You're absolutely right. Anti-vaxxers are stupid. Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #75

It's ignorance and stupidity driving it... TreasonousBastard Apr 2014 #2

If the Salk vaccine was ready 2 weeks earlier I might have escaped catching polio Submariner Apr 2014 #4

I am 74 years old dem in texas Apr 2014 #5

in the fifties it was more than common to have friends who had polio... spanone Apr 2014 #11

I grew up in NYC in the 50s HockeyMom Apr 2014 #14

The Salk vaccine came out in 1955. Not the 60s. SheilaT Apr 2014 #31

I remember the mass vaccinations. mainer Apr 2014 #46

This is the kind of TBF Apr 2014 #60

Exposed to the disease HockeyMom Apr 2014 #61

Mankind survived as a whole TBF Apr 2014 #63

No, it was luck. jeff47 Apr 2014 #84

One of my dearest friends had polio and uses a wheelchair KamaAina Apr 2014 #67

good for your friend. my friend may have seen it the same way. it was heartbreaking for me. spanone Apr 2014 #71

I'm afraid they are going to start seeing it soon enough if people insist on being ignorant. mountain grammy Apr 2014 #36

Wish I could say this is a dying breed Lithos Apr 2014 #7

agreed! doxydad Apr 2014 #21

Anti-vax dumbasses... SidDithers Apr 2014 #9

The problem is their innocent kids and others' innocent kids will suffer. Arugula Latte Apr 2014 #23

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I am an asthma sufferer so last year I went to a pharmacy and had the vaccine Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #10

The main thing driving it is that the diseases were forgotten Warpy Apr 2014 #13

I can honestly say as a "Grandma" HockeyMom Apr 2014 #15

I nearly died from measles encephalitis that put me into a coma Warpy Apr 2014 #17

My parents DID NOT SHELTER me HockeyMom Apr 2014 #22

The majority of kids do survive. Even those with abusive parents. mainer Apr 2014 #30

I grew up in rural IA and can think two close to me. progressoid Apr 2014 #19

This - right here - is why. "What Would Happen If We Stopped Vaccinations?" From the CDC. jtuck004 Apr 2014 #37

So the fact you didn't see them "dead on the streets" means they didn't die? mainer Apr 2014 #40

seeing as you deny that smoking is bad and have disdain for health care in general, it's not a dionysus Apr 2014 #74

Right. progressoid Apr 2014 #16

And too bad she doesn't have a clue how the immune system works Warpy Apr 2014 #18

Do you all really trust multinational corporations that much? Cairycat Apr 2014 #20

We trust the government orgs and medical researchers in charge of public health NickB79 Apr 2014 #27

+1000 mainer Apr 2014 #29

Well said. mountain grammy Apr 2014 #39

I trust the medical community, which is not the same thing as Big Pharma. NuclearDem Apr 2014 #32

Daytime TV is plastered with commercials pushing the latest cashcow drugs from big pharma, GoneFishin Apr 2014 #48

to bad you can't vax against stupid--i remember getting oral polio vax at school dembotoz Apr 2014 #24

I remember the early '50s, before the Salk vaccine, The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2014 #38

They make me angry Stargazer09 Apr 2014 #25

i wonder is there cindyperry2010 Apr 2014 #26

Faux Nooz blkmusclmachine Apr 2014 #28

*facepalm* sakabatou Apr 2014 #34

Dr. Fuhrman, a leader in the Vegan Movement, ... JEFF9K Apr 2014 #41

Of course, that means it MUST be true mainer Apr 2014 #42

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Flu shots are sort of a different debate, I think davidn3600 Apr 2014 #44

You haven't seen someone die of complications of the flu. mainer Apr 2014 #45

I have - a relative. 840high Apr 2014 #52

The medical community has limited resources to deal with influenza. NuclearDem Apr 2014 #47

Good point ... JEFF9K Apr 2014 #50

Dr. Fuhrman is a self-help marketer. NuclearDem Apr 2014 #55

So now you know he is a quack. HuckleB Apr 2014 #80

It doesn't feel like that to me gollygee Apr 2014 #43

Dr. Fuhrman says ... JEFF9K Apr 2014 #49

So, some conspiracy theorist quack is your go to guy? HuckleB Apr 2014 #81

He has the PBS Seal of Approval. ... JEFF9K Apr 2014 #91

He's a quack. HuckleB Apr 2014 #96

I guess I'm more or less a vaxxer. ananda Apr 2014 #51

preventable disease driving up costs for everyone mississippi62 Apr 2014 #53

flu vaccine should not be equated with the standard vaccines ibegurpard Apr 2014 #54

Not only that, it is not recommended for most "working-age adults" KamaAina Apr 2014 #69

Odd isn't it? mzmolly Apr 2014 #72

Because working-age adults aren't as vulnerable to flu complications mainer Apr 2014 #93

But that skews the statistic quoted in the OP way out of proportion KamaAina Apr 2014 #94

Those working-age adults may expose the elderly and infirm to the virus mainer Apr 2014 #95

OK - once more with feeling. 3catwoman3 Apr 2014 #56

The times my husband got the flu shots HockeyMom Apr 2014 #57

^ Excellent post - TBF Apr 2014 #59

You are fooling Mother Nature HockeyMom Apr 2014 #62

Mother Nature? TBF Apr 2014 #64

We can "fool" Mother Nature. NuclearDem Apr 2014 #65

Or Mother Nature may have given us the ability to create vaccines. Liberal Veteran Apr 2014 #78

Ding! DING! DING! EXACTLY! HuckleB Apr 2014 #82

'altering the course of what Mother Nature intended'? LeftishBrit Apr 2014 #85

Parents should have the final say concerning their own children HockeyMom Apr 2014 #88

No and yes. Liberal Veteran Apr 2014 #90

What if a parent doesn't believe in seatbelts or bike helmets? mainer Apr 2014 #92

A long, healthy life is one of the least natural things we want Silent3 Apr 2014 #89

If you have grandchildren then you need to get booster shots mississippi62 Apr 2014 #97

Antibodies in Breast milk HockeyMom Apr 2014 #58

Yes, they give infants vaccinations! lillypaddle Apr 2014 #68

The flu shot is a killed virus vaccine... 3catwoman3 Apr 2014 #66

If one wishes to look at things from the point of view of... 3catwoman3 Apr 2014 #70

Another report about the false "momentum" mzmolly Apr 2014 #73

I feel bad for children of incredibly stupid parents. Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #76

Anti backers are anti science, and unfortunately it involves both sides of the political lostincalifornia Apr 2014 #77

I'm so tired of people who read fear-mongering nonsense and then think they know more than others... HuckleB Apr 2014 #79

I have never got a flu vaccine. dilby Apr 2014 #83