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Javaman

(62,497 posts)
54. "will anyone responsible for the torture,"
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 11:10 AM
Apr 2014

No.

That's how it works in todays America.

When confronted with questions as to why the purps won't be brought up on charges we will be the recipient of various forms of the now tired phrase, "the nation wouldn't survive it". And a rough translation means, "we, the current crop of willful stooges (aka politicians) to the wealthy and military machine, wouldn't survive it"

It's all about preserving legacy based on lies and the "winners" who write/rewrite the history.

Don't get me wrong, there will always be those who will work as the poster children for the outraged. The various congress people that will call for investigations (blue ribbon or otherwise) to "get to the bottom of this".

There will be all sorts of speeches, televised conferences and various hearings filled with lots of feigned indignation and finger wagging. The well rehearsed and over practiced expressions of "exasperation" and "head shaking in wonderment".

And most certainly there will be the usual smoke and mirrors by both sides to cloud out the actual issue which could lead to an actual real investigation.

In the end?

Several underlings will fall on their swords to serve their time in a country club jail for "crimes" that only cut the surface of the actual travesty, but they will be paraded around as the "one" who was the "mastermind".

The full court press by the Sunday talk show spokes models will make sure that subterfuge is the name of the game.

But the main mission is further division, not between the have mores and the have even less, but to further exploit infighting within the middle and lower class. Continuing to make sure that we the people never ever coalesce on a common cause.

And our gaze is never kept for long on the actual issue.

Don't be the least surprised if some non-trovercy (think Benghazi) is trumped up to distract us all when the real red meat of this report is issued. (most likely on a Friday Night News dump)

Yes, I'm cynical. I have lived a long time and have been witness to how our nation transitioned from the rights of the people to the rights of the corporation.

And at the end of the day, when all is lied and done, it's about money. It's always been about money. Nothing more nothing less.

And those in power; (don't insult yourself by thinking the politicians are in power) want to stay in power.

I'm looking forward to looking forward. MannyGoldstein Apr 2014 #1
Speak for yourself. I'm looking forward to looking backwards, Raksha Apr 2014 #46
If anybody is tried, it will be the proverbial bad apple. nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #2
This NSA spying business has been a stain and the CIA torture an embarrassment to the country quinnox Apr 2014 #3
This one won't be. Rex Apr 2014 #4
I hope you're not right, because if you are, we're doomed to repeat this again neverforget Apr 2014 #5
Doesn't that kinda seem like a major human trait? Rex Apr 2014 #7
Disturbed enough to drag King Georgie and his court rocktivity Apr 2014 #6
Barack and Nancy won't allow that FiveGoodMen Apr 2014 #39
You're right, unfortunately. Raksha Apr 2014 #47
Well since everything else has been, this might as well. Savannahmann Apr 2014 #8
Well if Congress has nothing to hide, why be so scared of a little CIA snooping? Rex Apr 2014 #35
I'm profoundly disturbed already. grahamhgreen Apr 2014 #9
What rock have they been living under for the last decade? pffshht Apr 2014 #10
Good point and welcome to DU nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #12
thank you Senator Wyden grasswire Apr 2014 #11
Good idea! neverforget Apr 2014 #14
kick and rec for attention this deserves 2banon Apr 2014 #13
yes creepy comments indeed lunasun Apr 2014 #49
MUST. blkmusclmachine Apr 2014 #15
Sen. Wyden was often a lone voice against these agencies, against the secrecy, the torture etc sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #16
When Wyden speaks about this stuff, I listen because neverforget Apr 2014 #21
Wyden and Merkley are a pretty good pair of Senators. Maedhros Apr 2014 #30
Me either condoleeza Apr 2014 #50
Wyden has disappointed me in the past (e.g. the healthcare reform debate) Maedhros Apr 2014 #51
As to your operational last question: vlakitti Apr 2014 #17
I'm afraid that it'll only be low level people and not the neverforget Apr 2014 #22
Well, someome probably will be. JoeyT Apr 2014 #18
The low level ones will get jail while those that gave the orders get off. I certainly hope not! neverforget Apr 2014 #43
If the US takes no action to prosecute those responsible for the torture, maybe some JDPriestly Apr 2014 #19
I wonder if we might have tortured out of vengeance? neverforget Apr 2014 #23
Probably. Yes. Out of vengeance. And yes. We have lost the moral high ground. JDPriestly Apr 2014 #26
FUCK RON PAUL AND THE LIBERTARIANS!! I'm a Democrat and I'm supporting my Party! Douglas Carpenter Apr 2014 #20
Sarcasm? [n/t] Maedhros Apr 2014 #31
Yep, being familar with his posts, it is. And pretty funny sarcasm at that. quinnox Apr 2014 #34
There need to be jail time associated with torture hootinholler Apr 2014 #24
It's already required! grahamhgreen Apr 2014 #41
Accountablity? Hell no, we're all too busy looking forward dontcha know... truebrit71 Apr 2014 #25
Wyden's full statement ProSense Apr 2014 #27
Thank you ProSense for posting that! neverforget Apr 2014 #48
There won't be any accountability get the red out Apr 2014 #28
Let's hope that justice wins the day. neverforget Apr 2014 #40
It is get the red out Apr 2014 #42
I am "profoundly disturbed" that there will be no accountability for these crimes. Autumn Apr 2014 #29
Putin lover! Rex Apr 2014 #36
And whose fault would that be Rex??? You post porn and dare to point out when a person Autumn Apr 2014 #37
Sigh, busted I am a Putin lover enabler... Rex Apr 2014 #38
It's almost like living a Walt Disney movie, only rated bare chested Autumn Apr 2014 #45
Me too. Solly Mack Apr 2014 #44
Drip, drip, drip. We can add it to this week's SC decision... polichick Apr 2014 #32
Wondering if coincidence ... retired af major Apr 2014 #33
Aren't we too numb, and too remote from the levers of power, to give a shit? librechik Apr 2014 #52
I wish they would be profoundly zentrum Apr 2014 #53
"will anyone responsible for the torture," Javaman Apr 2014 #54
Some people that carried it out have been punished shanemcg Apr 2014 #55
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