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46. There's already a significant amount of socialism in this country...
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 11:35 AM
Apr 2014

I recognize it, and have no problem with it. However, a lot of people have kind of a gag reflex toward the words socialism and communism. The tea party puppeteers use this 'gag reflex' as a way to lead people around by the nose.

The point that I try to get across is that it isn't REALLY capitalism that is so great, but competition in the marketplace that makes a good economic system. This is one of the reasons why Obamacare is good - because it forces competition in a marketplace where none existed. So the problem isn't socialism, but any economic system that allows markets with no competition. Which is what capitalism has become without the anti-trust laws that used to be so ubiquitous.

I understand that the Koch brothers are unknown to the person on the street, that's one of the reasons why I don't think an anti-Koch blitz will work. If awareness is raised about THEM then all they have to do is do a few good deeds and then point out those deeds - it'll probably break about 50-50 (pro-Koch vs anti-Koch). It is the bad deeds themselves that should be pointed out.

I posit that the Koch brothers are so opposed to Obamacare because they are polluting in areas where poor people have no health insurance (Kentucky for example) and with Medicaid expansion 'clusters' will emerge where they are polluting and making people sick. These poor sick people will have class action suits against the Koch brothers and environmental regulations that they are violating will be brought to light - so they will not only have the class action suits - they will have EPA fines, and mandatory clean-up expenses. This is just my guess (as to why they are so opposed to Obamacare). There's a limit to how much I can know sitting in my living room typing on my iPhone.

If I were a campaign guru - I would be out identifying those 'polluted' areas and tying them back to Koch brothers industries. Then at a time close to the mid-term election make a mad dash to tie the Koch brothers to these industries (and the republicans to the Koch brothers) so that they don't have time to slick up their image. As it is with the full court press against them - they have over six months to 'shape' their image.

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GOOD!! Voice for Peace Apr 2014 #1
We must go on the offensive against the Koch brothers. MUST. CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2014 #2
And every penny the Koch brothers spend on the election will just play into the Democratic narrative applegrove Apr 2014 #3
And that includes the XL pipeline. eom Frustratedlady Apr 2014 #10
Rubio is a Koch Tool cyclezealot Apr 2014 #18
But aren't we just feeding the media beast? erronis Apr 2014 #57
What's your solution? drm604 Apr 2014 #63
Some small ideas erronis Apr 2014 #67
It wasn't a "tactic". It was the TRUTH. I wish the media would learn the difference. n/t Triana Apr 2014 #4
So true. applegrove Apr 2014 #5
Amen.... daleanime Apr 2014 #22
yes! + a zillion. .. it's not some sports event.... BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2014 #24
ONLY + a zillion?! What are you, a right-wing troll or something? Jeff In Milwaukee Apr 2014 #53
OMG!! Busted! My True identity is revealed!! BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2014 #54
The truth is the BEST tactic demwing Apr 2014 #31
Yes! The main thing that "hurt Romney" was ROMNEY. KurtNYC Apr 2014 #33
And why did it need to be 'revived'? randome Apr 2014 #38
+1... freebrew Apr 2014 #52
Using the truth is just one of many media tactics ...it's just not used very often. L0oniX Apr 2014 #43
Exactly what I was going to say. progressoid Apr 2014 #55
The beauty part Cirque du So-What Apr 2014 #6
Actually the beauty is that since it is the democrat's main campaign theme, or so it seems, the MSM applegrove Apr 2014 #7
Actually, I don't expect as much coverage on the DNC side Cirque du So-What Apr 2014 #9
Agreed. freshwest Apr 2014 #20
It's about time onecaliberal Apr 2014 #8
good idea Douglas Carpenter Apr 2014 #11
Romney's callousness and indifference weren't "tactics" rocktivity Apr 2014 #12
The "tactic" was that Democrats highlighted Romney's hedge fund and lack of job creation. applegrove Apr 2014 #13
It may be true that 95% of Americans have never heard of the Kochroaches now . . . Brigid Apr 2014 #14
Wow Brigid! the Kochroaches - that is an apt description - n/t mazzarro Apr 2014 #32
Invite the Kochs and Adelson to the debates. gulliver Apr 2014 #15
lol, I second the motion! n/t BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2014 #25
Yeah! They want their voices heard, let's hear 'em straight from the source. eShirl Apr 2014 #68
K&R freshwest Apr 2014 #16
Hit them with the truth??? I LIKE that strategy!! DesertDiamond Apr 2014 #17
The Truth Hurts. Telling it, like it is, Brothers. Telling it, like it is. K&R for the TRUTH. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #19
"Striking at Kocks" mindwalker_i Apr 2014 #21
Now THAT is an oligarchy-- cprise Apr 2014 #23
"To Strike at Kochs, Democrats Revive Tactic That Hurt Romney" ShazzieB Apr 2014 #26
President Obama and his allies were too easy on Bain Capital and private equity groups. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #27
"they have finally found a way to fight back" deutsey Apr 2014 #28
Keep it up!!!! More, more, more of this!!!! hue Apr 2014 #29
Be sure to make the connection between the Kochs and those they support too Auggie Apr 2014 #30
I was thinking the same thing. Curmudgeoness Apr 2014 #60
Why don't these Democratic morons hire.....ME!! pangaia Apr 2014 #34
Way past time.... MaeScott Apr 2014 #35
I'm getting 'Koch Brother' fatigue... Blanks Apr 2014 #36
They are the face of Capitalism - TBF Apr 2014 #42
There's already a significant amount of socialism in this country... Blanks Apr 2014 #46
Yes, reality just gets so TIRESOME. jeff47 Apr 2014 #51
I actually ended up removing myself from the DCCC and Democratic Senator email list davidpdx Apr 2014 #65
K&R! sheshe2 Apr 2014 #37
Chuck Schumer absolutely destroyed Jeremy "I so much look like a tust rund baby" Peters this am whathehell Apr 2014 #39
Important OP. K&R nt TBF Apr 2014 #40
Harry Reid is still ProSense Apr 2014 #41
living in NC tv commercial hell bluemarkers Apr 2014 #44
Why not fight back...there's nothing to lose. CanonRay Apr 2014 #45
well…. dhill926 Apr 2014 #47
It only took them months to decide to fight back! Doctor_J Apr 2014 #48
Democrats Touch Wires Together: Discover Spark Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #49
+1 SomethingFishy Apr 2014 #62
The truth will set you free. nt BumRushDaShow Apr 2014 #50
Perfect! nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #56
"Democrats are seeking to make villains of the reclusive billionaires..." Veilex Apr 2014 #58
Exactly what I was thinking. nt Jamaal510 Apr 2014 #59
Time for American spring? WHEN CRABS ROAR Apr 2014 #61
mahalo apple! Cha Apr 2014 #64
Hey Cha! applegrove Apr 2014 #70
Republicans hate working people! B Calm Apr 2014 #66
Found this on Facebook alfredo Apr 2014 #69
kick Liberal_in_LA Apr 2014 #71
I'm absolutely certain Aerows Apr 2014 #72
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