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HERVEPA

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3. By the way, Esiason has given a good, heartfelt, non-bullshit apology.

Reply to demmiblue (Original post)

Mon Apr 7, 2014, 12:18 PM

Apr 2014

Francesa is just a blowhard, Esiason, not so much.

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Men on the Edge of Panic: Boomer Esiason, Mike Fancesa and Toxic Masculinity [View all] demmiblue Apr 2014 OP

I liked Chris Hayes' piece on this topic. cyberswede Apr 2014 #1

Thanks for the links! demmiblue Apr 2014 #2

Me too! LibGranny Apr 2014 #10

By the way, Esiason has given a good, heartfelt, non-bullshit apology. HERVEPA Apr 2014 #3

Esiason just said he was sorry some people were offended. SunSeeker Apr 2014 #16

That is incorrect. See below. HERVEPA Apr 2014 #18

+1. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2014 #21

The one I heard was the "sorry you were offended" variety. SunSeeker Apr 2014 #23

Wrong again. I heard it spoken by him on air. HERVEPA Apr 2014 #31

I'm not wrong. His initial on-air "apology" was a non apology. SunSeeker Apr 2014 #54

LOL, admit they were wrong about what? The initial apology? You drunk bro? nt Logical Apr 2014 #63

The one I heard was basically "sorry I said the 'C-section' thing. 'Cause it may have offended some calimary Apr 2014 #48

This whole issue really pissed me off when I read of it NickB79 Apr 2014 #4

Thank you for sharing your story, Nick. demmiblue Apr 2014 #6

Right on! cyberswede Apr 2014 #11

Sounds familiar. riqster Apr 2014 #15

listen to you men. and then i watch those that drop to their knees and cry uncle seabeyond Apr 2014 #30

Awwww. riqster Apr 2014 #38

what does not break us, makes us stronger. i hear your story nick. in all the hard.... seabeyond Apr 2014 #29

I have to salute parents like him. riqster Apr 2014 #40

you know how i kinda look at it? it just should be. no, it is not always as it should be. seabeyond Apr 2014 #42

This^^^ riqster Apr 2014 #43

excellent. and ya... right on. i agree. nt seabeyond Apr 2014 #44

You sound like you could give the pathetic "boomer" a few lessons in what it is to be a REAL man. calimary Apr 2014 #49

toxic masculinity? Really? hfojvt Apr 2014 #5

1. Your father did what fathers did THEN but that was then, not NOW. Difference. Lex Apr 2014 #7

viva la differance hfojvt Apr 2014 #25

i was older when i had kids. security, financial, emotional. i was pretty set up well, seabeyond Apr 2014 #32

Why not indeed? hfojvt Apr 2014 #37

there is of course different ways. and telling a woman to have a surgery at the expense of herself seabeyond Apr 2014 #39

It is the end of the world because we are better now than we were then, as a species. alarimer Apr 2014 #56

" one characteristic of an a$$hole is that they are quick to crank their outrage level to eleven..." demmiblue Apr 2014 #8

close hfojvt Apr 2014 #27

I'd ask that of Boomer Esiason and Mike Fancesa who ranted at a player for Bluenorthwest Apr 2014 #9

I am not seeing a rant from Esiason hfojvt Apr 2014 #33

As Dave Zirin has also pointed out, -- radicalliberal Apr 2014 #41

bet you mercuryblues Apr 2014 #13

Countries with better natal outcomes have lower rates of C-sections. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2014 #24

I think Toxic Masculinity are playing the Warped Tour this year. Initech Apr 2014 #61

No more, nor no less possible than disagreeing with someone without trivializing or minimizing their LanternWaste Apr 2014 #68

Jonathan Chait's article discusses the issue Dawson Leery Apr 2014 #12

Hormones make stupid AgingAmerican Apr 2014 #14

really? you are blaming this on mens hormone? this allows them an excuse to stupid? did you say seabeyond Apr 2014 #35

Only partially AgingAmerican Apr 2014 #57

So women do not have the urge to do stupid? And the women that do stupid do not get to use hormones seabeyond Apr 2014 #58

Women do plenty of stupid too AgingAmerican Apr 2014 #59

You readily miss the obvious point. No, it is not your testosterone that urges you to stupid. seabeyond Apr 2014 #60

True that AgingAmerican Apr 2014 #62

Priests, college sports coaches, refugee film directors - all these have closeupready Apr 2014 #17

It's ridiculous. radicalliberal Apr 2014 #47

+1000. Completely agree. closeupready Apr 2014 #50

Thank you! :) radicalliberal Apr 2014 #52

I was not athletically inclined either. Dawson Leery Apr 2014 #64

There are different kinds of strength. radicalliberal Apr 2014 #65

I agree with you. I go to the YMCA and play tennis. Dawson Leery Apr 2014 #66

+1,000,000,000,000 Dawson Leery Apr 2014 #51

Thank you! :) radicalliberal Apr 2014 #53

Awesome quote blackspade Apr 2014 #19

Women are just baby-makin' machines, doncha know? radicalliberal Apr 2014 #46

American hypocrisy: Say children come first, but really put them last (far behind career). nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2014 #20

I am glad that Boomer apologized, but really confused that he would say something so insensitive. Dustlawyer Apr 2014 #22

True. See quote of his apology im my post above. HERVEPA Apr 2014 #34

Those guys sounded SO stupid. Blue_In_AK Apr 2014 #26

C-sections, especially first c-sections, are painful Ilsa Apr 2014 #28

That last paragraph does give me a little hope. TygrBright Apr 2014 #36

People still watch professional baseball? Warren DeMontague Apr 2014 #45

Sports talk radio is almost as bad as right-wing talk radio when it comes to assholes. alarimer Apr 2014 #55

Insecure man-children in their little boys' clubs chrisa Apr 2014 #67