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16. What is it you think I am defending?

Mon Apr 7, 2014, 12:18 PM

Apr 2014

You made the remark that basically judged a book by it's cover which is what I was replying to.

I don't read the magazine. I get why they did it (increase sales, get a story out, etc) but that doesn't mean if I was a golfer I would like the idea (I like Chess, and if a chess magazine had a cover like that it wouldn't make me want to buy it but it wouldn't stop me either if I had been reading it for some time and enjoyed the coverage - I wouldn't let the cover change my perception of the magazine's contents).

Either they will increase sales or not (and by not that means less or same amount of sales). Everyone involved exercised free choice.

Personally, as noted, I don't see it's allure but that does not mean I wouldn't get it if I liked golfing.

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Paulina Gretzky makes Golf Digest cover because she looks really good in lycra.Is this bad for golf? [View all] The Straight Story Apr 2014 OP

It's almost as if Golf Digest's primary interest is sales of Golf Digest cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #1

Heh. Desert805 Apr 2014 #105

They are interested in magazine sales, nothing more n2doc Apr 2014 #2

Appears they are not to be taken seriously about reporting golf treestar Apr 2014 #3

Mama always said, "Don't judge a book by it's cover" (nt) The Straight Story Apr 2014 #5

Honestly... You want to defend this? Really? Nice slap to all the female pros who have earned hlthe2b Apr 2014 #12

What is it you think I am defending? The Straight Story Apr 2014 #16

I'd say ^^this^^ reply makes it quite self-evident. hlthe2b Apr 2014 #18

That answer is ridiculous! Desert805 Apr 2014 #107

And your post seems little more than slut-shaming with baseless accusations of sluttiness. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #57

It has nothing to do with the woman portrayed and everything to do with the fact they chose hlthe2b Apr 2014 #60

Is there, like, a checklist of all the covers they must publish before they're allowed to Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #68

Your comment is not even worth the time... It is YOU who brought up the term hlthe2b Apr 2014 #81

I feel remarkably unashamed. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #83

Your agenda is to apply straw-man arguments where they don't exist to flame bait hlthe2b Apr 2014 #84

The last woman appeared last year for the same Fit issue in May maddezmom Apr 2014 #85

"No one--repeat NO ONE hs made her attractiveness the specific issue, except YOU" Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #88

I dunno, but the same company (Conde Nast) owns a few other mags that may shed some light The Straight Story Apr 2014 #90

From your list let's see what other magazines Ms. Gretzky might qualify for -- Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #92

Defend what? Desert805 Apr 2014 #106

The purpose of the magazine is to sell golf clubs. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #4

and what could be more serious than golf anyway? hfojvt Apr 2014 #9

That picture appeals to more men than just golfers. upaloopa Apr 2014 #6

It's been on the TV news because some women golfers felt disrespected by the cover. I don't blame seaglass Apr 2014 #8

And? upaloopa Apr 2014 #22

You said we wouldn't know about it without this OP and I said the story has been on the news - is seaglass Apr 2014 #25

No woman on the cover since 2008? Now that's important info. It brings this cover into perspective mulsh Apr 2014 #24

They will have done extensive demographic surveying. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2014 #32

Well as far as I know it did start with LPGAers speaking out about the cover. Do you consider seaglass Apr 2014 #40

You would if you read any number of other news sources on the web. hlthe2b Apr 2014 #14

We probably fit into upaloopa's category of men haters who think old white men are the cause seaglass Apr 2014 #19

I thought no one read my posts. upaloopa Apr 2014 #26

Why would you think no one reads your posts? I don't know any men haters so I can't say they seaglass Apr 2014 #37

No I don't have issues with women. upaloopa Apr 2014 #39

Gee we just invented sexism! upaloopa Apr 2014 #23

... hlthe2b Apr 2014 #27

I said agenda you added the rest upaloopa Apr 2014 #30

From the post of yours that another posted upstream, many would see your comment as projection. hlthe2b Apr 2014 #31

So what is it that makes what you say so upaloopa Apr 2014 #35

More projection. It is YOUR post that accused hlthe2b Apr 2014 #41

You just made all that up in your mind. upaloopa Apr 2014 #42

Once again and here is the link previously provided of YOUR OWN WORDS hlthe2b Apr 2014 #43

Man you really need everyone here to see me as you do. upaloopa Apr 2014 #45

Can't stand by your own words by which others will judge you? hlthe2b Apr 2014 #47

Do and say what you need to I don't care upaloopa Apr 2014 #52

That is quite obvious (and sad) hlthe2b Apr 2014 #53

And absolutely nowhere in that post does he do what you said .... oldhippie Apr 2014 #50

He most certainly did accuse some Du women of "hating men" You are being disingenuous hlthe2b Apr 2014 #51

Do you think 'some' men on DU hate women (misogyny)? (nt) The Straight Story Apr 2014 #54

I have no opinion on that. upaloopa Apr 2014 #63

They must interest you some, you brought up the topic via a previous post The Straight Story Apr 2014 #65

Why do you need this to go on and on? upaloopa Apr 2014 #66

Moving the goalposts again, are we? oldhippie Apr 2014 #55

His words speak for themselves. hlthe2b Apr 2014 #58

I rest my case ....... oldhippie Apr 2014 #59

Given, he too admits his words were "poorly chosen", you missed making your case. hlthe2b Apr 2014 #61

Those were sure not the best choice of words by me. upaloopa Apr 2014 #56

Nonsense. Orrex Apr 2014 #28

Yeah... (and undoubtedly the less model-like appearance, the more they appear) n/t hlthe2b Apr 2014 #29

What's her handicap? Capt. Obvious Apr 2014 #7

She's pretty slow on faceoffs. Dr. Strange Apr 2014 #13

I heard she has trouble with the change-up. n/t cherokeeprogressive Apr 2014 #17

Her breasts, apparently. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #62

You are aware she's not a golfer? kcr Apr 2014 #87

"You are aware she's not a golfer?" Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #89

What does the LPGA have to do with it? Are they affiliated with the magazine? kcr Apr 2014 #93

The LPGA figures prominently in the article cited in the OP. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #97

They still don't have anything to do with who is featured on the cover of a magazine. kcr Apr 2014 #100

The LPGA is the association mentioned in the article maddezmom Apr 2014 #99

So? kcr Apr 2014 #101

It is predominately a men's magazine so I guess featuring women golfers maddezmom Apr 2014 #102

I didn't realize golf was a men's sport kcr Apr 2014 #110

Women's golf just isn't close to as popular as men's golf.... woolldog Apr 2014 #111

That tired explanation kcr Apr 2014 #114

There's a demand for some women's sports.... woolldog Apr 2014 #115

There just isn't that much demand for golf as a sports event, period. kcr Apr 2014 #119

I thought the question/issue was why don't we see LPGA golfers on the cover? woolldog Apr 2014 #121

Of course it isn't just a for men, I play myself. maddezmom Apr 2014 #113

Well, that would be my whole point. kcr Apr 2014 #116

Not sure if it is struggling but I do know it is the #1 golf magazine maddezmom Apr 2014 #118

It says that golf is no more (or less)sexist than the rest of the sporting world. riqster Apr 2014 #10

Celebrity endorsement... rrneck Apr 2014 #11

Not bad for golf. But could well be bad for Golf Digest. Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #15

I'll have you know Capt. Obvious Apr 2014 #21

First time I've ever seen Golf Digest in the news LittleBlue Apr 2014 #20

Golf Digest's Goal is to Sell Stuff. MineralMan Apr 2014 #33

A year ago they had Holly Sonders on the cover AngryAmish Apr 2014 #34

Well if it raises the subscription ratet from whistler162 Apr 2014 #36

You'd be shocked at the circulation figures for this magazine jmowreader Apr 2014 #67

Golf? She's a fucking right-winger and bad for humanity. Tom Ripley Apr 2014 #38

she is? what did she say? dionysus Apr 2014 #46

Paulina Gretzky tweets anti-Obama photo Tom Ripley Apr 2014 #70

ugh. what a twit. dionysus Apr 2014 #71

Take off to the Great White North, hoser KamaAina Apr 2014 #78

Have to admit that I bought this issue MO_Moderate Apr 2014 #44

... woolldog Apr 2014 #112

Helped me with my "handi-cap" also. Munificence Apr 2014 #120

Looking to add a few Strokes to the game? seveneyes Apr 2014 #48

Marketing sells magazines maddezmom Apr 2014 #49

very few of the LPGA golfers appear on their cover, even when they win majors..hence the controversy spanone Apr 2014 #64

Golf is fading, particularly among young people BeyondGeography Apr 2014 #69

well, more open tee times for me then! dionysus Apr 2014 #73

It's good for golf....Digest. yellowcanine Apr 2014 #72

The commissioner of the LPGA is named "Mike"? KamaAina Apr 2014 #74

I believe they have all been male with the exception of Carolyn Bevins maddezmom Apr 2014 #76

That's what "looking good" is these days? She needs a sandwich or ten NickB79 Apr 2014 #75

Or perhaps some Timbits KamaAina Apr 2014 #77

Well, it's better than this other sportswoman. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #79

Jesus Christ, put up a disclaimer first! NickB79 Apr 2014 #80

No kidding! RiffRandell Apr 2014 #94

It's fake. Here's the original. pintobean Apr 2014 #96

Are people really fooled by the fake Palin? caraher Apr 2014 #117

Her pose is intentionally provocative (ass in the air). She/they could have done something way less KittyWampus Apr 2014 #82

She's a handsome woman. Definitely looks like her dad. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2014 #86

A pretty girl on a magazine cover? Wabbajack_ Apr 2014 #91

Never, so people need to focus on more important things. nt. RiffRandell Apr 2014 #95

Jury results pintobean Apr 2014 #103

Looks like the alerter got a break due to an error. RiffRandell Apr 2014 #104

Who the hell thinks of porn pintobean Apr 2014 #108

It also looks like she's wearing yoga pants. RiffRandell Apr 2014 #98

If not for her dad no one would care about Paulina. alp227 Apr 2014 #109

This cover has as much to do with golf as zabet Apr 2014 #122