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radicalliberal

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52. Thank you! :)

Mon Apr 7, 2014, 04:30 PM

Apr 2014

I expected to be flamed by angry sports fans.

Look, I'm not a sedentary guy. I've been pumping iron at a local health club for about five years, spending a small fortune on personal trainers. I've benefited greatly in terms of my health (compared to the mandatory sports-centric P.E. of my youth, which was an "exercise" in incompetence and hypocrisy).

The incredible pressure to which Sakharov and Wallenberg were subjected would have crushed most of us (myself included). In this country the pioneers of the civil rights movement were cut from the same cloth.

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Men on the Edge of Panic: Boomer Esiason, Mike Fancesa and Toxic Masculinity [View all] demmiblue Apr 2014 OP

I liked Chris Hayes' piece on this topic. cyberswede Apr 2014 #1

Thanks for the links! demmiblue Apr 2014 #2

Me too! LibGranny Apr 2014 #10

By the way, Esiason has given a good, heartfelt, non-bullshit apology. HERVEPA Apr 2014 #3

Esiason just said he was sorry some people were offended. SunSeeker Apr 2014 #16

That is incorrect. See below. HERVEPA Apr 2014 #18

+1. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2014 #21

The one I heard was the "sorry you were offended" variety. SunSeeker Apr 2014 #23

Wrong again. I heard it spoken by him on air. HERVEPA Apr 2014 #31

I'm not wrong. His initial on-air "apology" was a non apology. SunSeeker Apr 2014 #54

LOL, admit they were wrong about what? The initial apology? You drunk bro? nt Logical Apr 2014 #63

The one I heard was basically "sorry I said the 'C-section' thing. 'Cause it may have offended some calimary Apr 2014 #48

This whole issue really pissed me off when I read of it NickB79 Apr 2014 #4

Thank you for sharing your story, Nick. demmiblue Apr 2014 #6

Right on! cyberswede Apr 2014 #11

Sounds familiar. riqster Apr 2014 #15

listen to you men. and then i watch those that drop to their knees and cry uncle seabeyond Apr 2014 #30

Awwww. riqster Apr 2014 #38

what does not break us, makes us stronger. i hear your story nick. in all the hard.... seabeyond Apr 2014 #29

I have to salute parents like him. riqster Apr 2014 #40

you know how i kinda look at it? it just should be. no, it is not always as it should be. seabeyond Apr 2014 #42

This^^^ riqster Apr 2014 #43

excellent. and ya... right on. i agree. nt seabeyond Apr 2014 #44

You sound like you could give the pathetic "boomer" a few lessons in what it is to be a REAL man. calimary Apr 2014 #49

toxic masculinity? Really? hfojvt Apr 2014 #5

1. Your father did what fathers did THEN but that was then, not NOW. Difference. Lex Apr 2014 #7

viva la differance hfojvt Apr 2014 #25

i was older when i had kids. security, financial, emotional. i was pretty set up well, seabeyond Apr 2014 #32

Why not indeed? hfojvt Apr 2014 #37

there is of course different ways. and telling a woman to have a surgery at the expense of herself seabeyond Apr 2014 #39

It is the end of the world because we are better now than we were then, as a species. alarimer Apr 2014 #56

" one characteristic of an a$$hole is that they are quick to crank their outrage level to eleven..." demmiblue Apr 2014 #8

close hfojvt Apr 2014 #27

I'd ask that of Boomer Esiason and Mike Fancesa who ranted at a player for Bluenorthwest Apr 2014 #9

I am not seeing a rant from Esiason hfojvt Apr 2014 #33

As Dave Zirin has also pointed out, -- radicalliberal Apr 2014 #41

bet you mercuryblues Apr 2014 #13

Countries with better natal outcomes have lower rates of C-sections. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2014 #24

I think Toxic Masculinity are playing the Warped Tour this year. Initech Apr 2014 #61

No more, nor no less possible than disagreeing with someone without trivializing or minimizing their LanternWaste Apr 2014 #68

Jonathan Chait's article discusses the issue Dawson Leery Apr 2014 #12

Hormones make stupid AgingAmerican Apr 2014 #14

really? you are blaming this on mens hormone? this allows them an excuse to stupid? did you say seabeyond Apr 2014 #35

Only partially AgingAmerican Apr 2014 #57

So women do not have the urge to do stupid? And the women that do stupid do not get to use hormones seabeyond Apr 2014 #58

Women do plenty of stupid too AgingAmerican Apr 2014 #59

You readily miss the obvious point. No, it is not your testosterone that urges you to stupid. seabeyond Apr 2014 #60

True that AgingAmerican Apr 2014 #62

Priests, college sports coaches, refugee film directors - all these have closeupready Apr 2014 #17

It's ridiculous. radicalliberal Apr 2014 #47

+1000. Completely agree. closeupready Apr 2014 #50

Thank you! :) radicalliberal Apr 2014 #52

I was not athletically inclined either. Dawson Leery Apr 2014 #64

There are different kinds of strength. radicalliberal Apr 2014 #65

I agree with you. I go to the YMCA and play tennis. Dawson Leery Apr 2014 #66

+1,000,000,000,000 Dawson Leery Apr 2014 #51

Thank you! :) radicalliberal Apr 2014 #53

Awesome quote blackspade Apr 2014 #19

Women are just baby-makin' machines, doncha know? radicalliberal Apr 2014 #46

American hypocrisy: Say children come first, but really put them last (far behind career). nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2014 #20

I am glad that Boomer apologized, but really confused that he would say something so insensitive. Dustlawyer Apr 2014 #22

True. See quote of his apology im my post above. HERVEPA Apr 2014 #34

Those guys sounded SO stupid. Blue_In_AK Apr 2014 #26

C-sections, especially first c-sections, are painful Ilsa Apr 2014 #28

That last paragraph does give me a little hope. TygrBright Apr 2014 #36

People still watch professional baseball? Warren DeMontague Apr 2014 #45

Sports talk radio is almost as bad as right-wing talk radio when it comes to assholes. alarimer Apr 2014 #55

Insecure man-children in their little boys' clubs chrisa Apr 2014 #67