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MattSh

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Tue Apr 8, 2014, 01:35 AM Apr 2014

Donetsk, Kharkiv, declare independence from Ukraine. [View all]

DONETSK, Ukraine (AP) — Pro-Moscow activists barricaded inside government buildings in eastern Ukraine proclaimed their regions independent Monday and called for a referendum on seceding from Ukraine — an ominous echo of the events that led to Russia's annexation of Crimea.

The Ukrainian government accused Russia of stirring up the unrest and tried to flush the assailants from some of the seized buildings, setting off fiery clashes in one city. Russia, which has tens of thousands of troops massed along the border, sternly warned Ukraine against using force.

In Washington, the U.S. said any move by Russia into eastern Ukraine would be a "very serious escalation" that could bring further sanctions. White House spokesman Jay Carney said there was strong evidence that some of the pro-Russian protesters were hired and were not local residents.

At the same time, the U.S. announced that Secretary of State John Kerry will meet with top diplomats from Russia, Ukraine and the European Union in a new push to ease tensions. The meeting, the first such four-way talks since the crisis erupted, will take place in the next 10 days, the State Department said.

Pro-Russian activists who seized the provincial administrative building in the city of Donetsk over the weekend announced the formation Monday of the independent Donetsk People's Republic.

http://news.yahoo.com/pro-russians-call-east-ukraine-region-independent-130537460--finance.html

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Hmm.."somebody told me here this would not escalate nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #1
I had several people tell me I was wrong about it escalating davidpdx Apr 2014 #3
Well, we are getting closer to the point of decision for NATO nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #9
Yup... joshcryer Apr 2014 #4
Western Ukraine should pre-empt them and declare a Republic of Ruthenia Recursion Apr 2014 #2
Won't happen. MattSh Apr 2014 #6
Let's face it--the Ukraine is like Czechoxlovakia--it needs a Velvet Divorce. eridani Apr 2014 #5
The Russians have no interest in allying with Eastern Ukraine. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2014 #8
So just never mind that Crimeans had no choice about joining the Ukraine eridani Apr 2014 #11
Again, that was an internal re-organziation within the Soviet Union. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2014 #17
And the '54 annexation was even less of an expression of the will of the people eridani Apr 2014 #22
1954 didn't really matter all that much. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2014 #23
Funny how the flags of "Independent" Donetsk and Khrakiv look *exactly* like that of Russia. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2014 #7
And a lot of the flags at the Kiev demonstrations... MattSh Apr 2014 #15
So you're saying what? Ukraine wants to join 1930s Nazi Germany? Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2014 #18
That Is A Good Question, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2014 #19
That's quite a leap. MattSh Apr 2014 #24
Really? Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2014 #25
Yeah, right... joeybee12 Apr 2014 #20
Yet another good reason we should stay the hell out of the squabble. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #10
What's good for the goose... Junkdrawer Apr 2014 #12
Not Quite Accurate, Sir: 'Small Group Of Protesters Issue Manifesto' Would Be More Like It The Magistrate Apr 2014 #13
I'm posting what the news story says... MattSh Apr 2014 #14
'Pro-Russians call east Ukraine region independent' Was the Headline, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2014 #16
+1 and also the Nazi reference was his also... joeybee12 Apr 2014 #21
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