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In reply to the discussion: How to Lie with Rape Statistics: America's Hidden Rape Crisis [View all]BainsBane
(53,029 posts)Or make an accusation against you in particular? I used the word you twice: "Your assertion that "NO ONE is arguing that efforts to stop and further reduce rape should stop" is clearly false" and "If you bothered to read the responses in the thread, you would see all kinds of information showing that police systematically downgrade rape to lesser charges."
Most of my comments were not about you. To assume they were is mistaken. A few of things that pertain to you include: minimizing rape stats; your objection to the anti-rape PSA (but not the part in quotes), that you insisted on defending Woody Allen and ignored the court record to do so, and a thread about drunk "sex." Other comments related to responses I've seen from other members. The commonality is a point of view in opposition to rape victims.
It seems to me you entered this thread predetermined to dismiss the argument of the OP, as did some others. That you so quickly denounced an academic study without reading it suggests as much. (I still don't understand how you imagined an abstract existed without an article that it summarized.) I think if you were truly concerned with more evidence, you would have said something like it's hard to know based on the limited info. in the abstract. Your response reveals your bias, as I fully admit mine does as well. The difference is I don't pretend not to have a bias.
Other posts cannot be discussed where they occurred since you banned me from the group in which you make them. That includes not only your outrage about the anti-rape PSA, your frequent comments about how awful "radical feminists" and "the usual suspects" are, as well as hostile comments about me personally, which I will not repeat here. I understand you feel free to say anything in the Men's Group because juries allow it. That, however, doesn't free you from the consequences of how I see you as a result of what you have said. You object to what I say to you directly. I happen to consider it far worse to talk about someone from a place they cannot respond.
I believe you believe you want to do away with all rape, yet you also argue against anti-rape PSA's that target rapists rather than victims. You post threads asking if drunk "sex" is okay, when it is in fact rape. If you really want to do away with rape, why do you write posts indicating that is anything other than rape?
As for your intent in posting what you do, I take you at your word that you posted the thread in outrage to the anti-rape PSA out of concern for your own feelings. In posting that and other threads, you, like all of us, make clear what your priorities are. You previously claimed you don't see your own feelings as more important than the experiences of rape victims, but what you post and how you respond says otherwise. What we write reveals our priorities more than what we say we care about. As for your intent in the threads expressing your hostility toward "radical feminists" and me in particular, it is hard to see that as anything other than it appears.