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Coventina

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1. It certainly didn't deserve the bad rap it got.

Thu Apr 10, 2014, 01:53 PM

Apr 2014

I did have one major issue with the film, which totally ruined the Christmas sequence for me.

"Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas" is a great tear-jerker of a song and was used to great effect until.......

They used the Frank Sinatra lyrics from 1957!!!!

During a WW2 movie!!!

The original lyrics are,

Someday soon we all will be together
If the fates allow
Until then we'll have to muddle through somehow
So have yourself a merry little Christmas now.

Frank Sinatra changed them to:

Someday soon we all will be together
If the fates allow
Hang a shining star upon the highest bough
And have yourself a merry little Christmas now.

Now, please tell me: why not use the original lyrics? They fit better with the scene as it is!!!

It totally pulled me out of the moment which is what, as a movie-maker, you never want to do to your audience.

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'Monuments Men' made me want to punch film critics very hard right in the nose. [View all] byronius Apr 2014 OP

It certainly didn't deserve the bad rap it got. Coventina Apr 2014 #1

I did not know. Oy. Sometimes generational ignorance is bliss, I suppose. byronius Apr 2014 #8

Yeah, obviously many people during and post-production missed that detail. Coventina Apr 2014 #11

I always thought the "muddle through" lyrics made for a richer, more poignant song, anyway villager Apr 2014 #14

Thank you! ITA! Coventina Apr 2014 #16

I haven't seen the movie yet and that will definitely bug me when I do. n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #10

I saw it at the theater first weekend yeoman6987 Apr 2014 #23

That makes more sense! Iggo Apr 2014 #57

"Muddle through" was a phrase with special meaning to US soldiers ... eppur_se_muova Apr 2014 #63

Haven't seen it lillypaddle Apr 2014 #2

I will see it based solely upon this review. pnwest Apr 2014 #3

I, too, loved this film. Clooney did a magnificent job on that screenplay. CTyankee Apr 2014 #4

I'm about to read it. And what an awesome response. I'm a little jealous. byronius Apr 2014 #7

my pleasure. I have read every book I could lay my hands on about the Monuments Men... CTyankee Apr 2014 #12

"The Rape of Europa" was made into a GREAT documentary film. Coventina Apr 2014 #15

I'm so glad you are spreading the word on this to the younger generation... CTyankee Apr 2014 #30

I do, too. Hissyspit Apr 2014 #41

GMTA! Coventina Apr 2014 #43

Thanks for the spoiler alert. n/t aggiesal Apr 2014 #37

Ack! sorry... CTyankee Apr 2014 #56

I plan on it. Thanks n/t aggiesal Apr 2014 #60

thank you Tansy_Gold Apr 2014 #59

I liked it too. Clooney made a Frank Capra movie in the overly cynical 21st century and the critics FSogol Apr 2014 #5

+1. Aristus Apr 2014 #6

the movie has a lot of good points el_bryanto Apr 2014 #9

Your question is raised in every book I have read on the Monuments Men... CTyankee Apr 2014 #17

The only film critic I trust anymore is Peter Travers of Rolling Stone. Like all MSM, it seems Zorra Apr 2014 #13

Yes, Travers is an artist as a critic geardaddy Apr 2014 #21

+1. Righties would never want to give Clooney credit for anything. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #26

My younger brother is an off-the chart neo-con MosheFeingold Apr 2014 #45

Your brother is as rare as the proverbial two peckered hoot owl. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #62

I'm reading Edsel's book LibertyLover Apr 2014 #18

That's part of the problem. Hissyspit Apr 2014 #38

Man, great review rumdude Apr 2014 #19

Marta and I are museum rats Omaha Steve Apr 2014 #20

Ah, your slippery slope begins! CTyankee Apr 2014 #22

I thought it was watchable... wouldn't recommend it. fbc Apr 2014 #24

"It's a Wonderful Life got panned at first Warpy Apr 2014 #25

It was an awesome movie liberal N proud Apr 2014 #27

everyone in the audience where I saw it was elderly, too... CTyankee Apr 2014 #28

Thank you for this review! I was looking forward to seeing this, but was disappointed at the bad hedgehog Apr 2014 #29

I loved it (and took my 13 y.o. son to it) cyberswede Apr 2014 #31

I agreed with the critics HERVEPA Apr 2014 #32

'I�ve substituted the word �puppies� for art.' Hissyspit Apr 2014 #36

Truly there must be something genetic going on. byronius Apr 2014 #39

Or maybe a movie about the power of art shouldn't be constructed of clich�s? Hissyspit Apr 2014 #42

Thus the power of the jaded film critic to destroy a good film. 'Haven't seen it. Heard it's bad.' byronius Apr 2014 #52

Film critics cannot ruin movies. HERVEPA Apr 2014 #64

They should just shut up about their opinion? Hissyspit Apr 2014 #70

No. But they savaged an important film. byronius Apr 2014 #74

Based on what? nt Logical Apr 2014 #67

Lousy storytelling, disjointed, looked like a bunch of episodes rather than HERVEPA Apr 2014 #68

You sound like some film school student! nt Logical Apr 2014 #69

So? Hissyspit Apr 2014 #71

You sound like a know-nothing. since you're into what YOU THINK is name-calling. HERVEPA Apr 2014 #72

Ahhh, temper temper. nt Logical Apr 2014 #73

Remind me never to have a difference of opinion with you CBGLuthier Apr 2014 #33

I reserve such hyperbole only for the truly important issues. And to me, this was It. byronius Apr 2014 #35

I saw it Flatpicker Apr 2014 #34

I saw a preview of this with Matt Damon, I think it was. toby jo Apr 2014 #40

My parents bought a house from a Monuments Man. kwassa Apr 2014 #44

Thank you. I'll look it up. emsimon33 Apr 2014 #66

I'm going to get it for my parents as soon as it comes out on DVD. applegrove Apr 2014 #46

Meh. Sometimes I disagree with the critics too, but I never fantasize about punching them. Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #47

I really enjoyed it and was sad it had gotten so panned. Starry Messenger Apr 2014 #48

As a movie.... MountainMama Apr 2014 #49

Violence is, after all, the only sensible solution to disagreements about which movies one likes cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #50

Since I see no sarcasm icon there, I must caution you that I possess a Hyperbolic Poetic License. byronius Apr 2014 #51

I saw it, and glad I did. elleng Apr 2014 #53

I saw it and liked it and compared to the garbage coming out of Hollywood, it was Great. nm rhett o rick Apr 2014 #54

Dunno. Inglorious Basterds was a tough act to follow. AtheistCrusader Apr 2014 #55

Different Fish Kettle, man. byronius Apr 2014 #58

But it ends *in* a cinema! In france! AtheistCrusader Apr 2014 #61

I have been out of the country the last 4 months, but based on your review emsimon33 Apr 2014 #65