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In reply to the discussion: Because knives were used in the mass stabbing attack yesterday, we should not regulate cars [View all]The Straight Story
(48,121 posts)There are some here (and elsewhere) who do want bans.
I am a realist when it comes down to it.
I used to work in the reloading business. We sold plenty of dies for .50 cal and such. Knew people who shot just for fun and would spend hours testing different loads, target practice, etc.
Some folks did have large magazines and while I don't see a general 'need' for them I can see why they are worrisome to some. Banning them doesn't really see the way to go though. The idealist says just let people own me, the realist sees the need for compromise and while not restricting them having sales of them recorded (if it would make people 'feel' more safe - it won't stop criminals from using them though or making their own....)
Some folks think I am against any laws or regulations at all, not true. What I am against is using fear and hyperbole to promote laws. I am biased in that I worked in the industry and met a lot of people the world over who shoot just for the heck of it and collected guns. What we see day in and out is one side of the issue - the few who use guns to harm others. They are not the norm, no one likes such people, and we all want to keep guns from such people and get them the help they need.
That is where the realist comes in - background checks done by states? Fine with that. Getting rid of all semi-autos because of those few? Silly. I think many in the gun community would be ok with restricting large capacity magazines -if- they knew it was not a first step in adding more and more to that list - and I am reminded of when I was younger and in Ohio they added not wearing seat belts as something they could ticket you for - lawmakers promised it would only be a secondary offense and years later bumped it up to a primary. Might be ok with some but the point it is they start with something they can get by and then incrementally add to it. We see the same thing with abortions where states say they won't ban them, just want to add this one restriction. Then another next year....
We fear the end result (banning all guns) and don't trust those who say 'just one more law' - and no matter what you do there will always be some who won't obey and so we add more (thinking they will). Make no laws? No. But at some point, statistically, you will always have people that won't be affected but the vast majority will. Every shooting has broken some laws that were meant to prevent them - and prevention does work for over ninety nine percent of gun owners already.