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hack89

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70. Here are some suggestions

Thu Apr 10, 2014, 04:15 PM

Apr 2014

1. Universal background checks for all gun sales.

2. The states obey the law and keep the background check databases up to date.

3. End the war on drugs and focus the justice system on violent crimes. The biggest predictor of someone becoming a murderer is a history of violent crimes. Lets not give violent offenders second, third or forth chances. Lets put them in prison before they kill or maim someone.

4. Since two thirds of all gun deaths are suicides, we need full mental care as part of any healthcare reform. Since mental health issues play a huge role in mass killings, that makes even more important.

5. I would license all gun owners - a system like Illinois Firearm Owner's Identification Card (FOID) would be good. A FOID would then be required to purchase guns and ammo. You can then require background checks and safety training as a continue for getting a FOID.

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Because knives were used in the mass stabbing attack yesterday, we should not regulate cars [View all] CreekDog Apr 2014 OP

Operating a car on public roads is a privilege The Straight Story Apr 2014 #1

Using or owning a knife is a privilege CreekDog Apr 2014 #3

When owning things is a privilege and not a right The Straight Story Apr 2014 #5

you said driving is a privilege, i'm just stating a similar factual observation CreekDog Apr 2014 #8

If some had their way owning a car, knife, gun would at the whim of a select few The Straight Story Apr 2014 #9

then why haven't you advocated for a right to bear knives in the constitution? CreekDog Apr 2014 #17

No need to - I don't see people here trying to remove those rights, just some rights The Straight Story Apr 2014 #22

i see gun advocates argue over and over again for a ban on all cars CreekDog Apr 2014 #30

Simply to show how dumb the gun laws proposed are The Straight Story Apr 2014 #34

Sure you do. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2014 #54

Same reason we don't have to advocate for the right to bear guns, it's already there! Bazinga Apr 2014 #60

Should you have the right to own a nuclear weapon? Bandit Apr 2014 #6

One does not exclude the other The Straight Story Apr 2014 #15

The government does restrict certain items, Switchblades, Lawn darts, even some that are Bandit Apr 2014 #37

What counties outlaw alcohol? IronGate Apr 2014 #40

There certainly are counties that ban alcohol. onecaliberal Apr 2014 #48

This I did not know. IronGate Apr 2014 #49

You're welcome. onecaliberal Apr 2014 #58

But one can still possess it there it just can't be sold there oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #64

The amount you can possess it limited. onecaliberal Apr 2014 #77

That's not a ban, that's just a non-sales law. NYC_SKP Apr 2014 #87

The list of dry counties is huge. NCTraveler Apr 2014 #62

Here we have something interesting The Straight Story Apr 2014 #42

I think it is only a very radical person that wants to outlaw guns, however that does not Bandit Apr 2014 #45

Ok, so we agree on something :) The Straight Story Apr 2014 #53

Some gun bans are perfectly constitutional hack89 Apr 2014 #51

when lawn darts are outlawed, only outlaws will have lawn darts CreekDog Apr 2014 #68

It is understood by most that the 2A protects an individual right to own firearms hack89 Apr 2014 #27

The 21st Amendment protects your right to possess alcohol also but many Counties Bandit Apr 2014 #41

No - the second section bans the importation of alcohol in violation of state or territorial law hack89 Apr 2014 #43

The Second amendment made no change is laws regarding liability. happyslug Apr 2014 #81

Another fine suggestion from the people who would propose regulation for others. geckosfeet Apr 2014 #2

No, the argument is that because knife regulation didn't stop the attack yesterday... CreekDog Apr 2014 #4

So - make more. geckosfeet Apr 2014 #61

These pro knife OP's should not be allowed. rrneck Apr 2014 #7

By golly, it's against law to carry an 8 inch knife, but yahoos can walk down the street with gunz. Hoyt Apr 2014 #10

Owning "gunz" is a civil liberty. Owning knives is not. hack89 Apr 2014 #11

which is why all knives are currently banned CreekDog Apr 2014 #14

The Constitution still allows regulation and even banning. hack89 Apr 2014 #19

why is why they're banned now CreekDog Apr 2014 #24

First lets be honest and admit that many here do support full scale bans hack89 Apr 2014 #32

well you said i did and i don't, so your word is shaky to say the least CreekDog Apr 2014 #36

You and I mostly likely agree on most gun control laws. hack89 Apr 2014 #39

Maybe you should post a poll. nt rrneck Apr 2014 #46

All this talk about 'protected rights' etc. etc. etc. is just dancing around the real question..... groundloop Apr 2014 #65

Here are some suggestions hack89 Apr 2014 #70

Yeah, those who cannot walk out the door without a gun see only their side of the issue. Hoyt Apr 2014 #18

Not everyone is as evenhanded, rational and non-emotional as you are. hack89 Apr 2014 #23

I disagree. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2014 #56

i knew they couldn't fool you! CreekDog Apr 2014 #73

Butter knives are regulated? I walked into Target madinmaryland Apr 2014 #12

I used a butter knife as a straight screwdriver last week and snapped the tip clean off... Hip_Flask Apr 2014 #13

knives are a privilege CreekDog Apr 2014 #16

I tried but... Hip_Flask Apr 2014 #28

When butter knives are outlawed... Dr. Strange Apr 2014 #21

have you registered your butter knife? CreekDog Apr 2014 #25

Just the $20 ones. Dr. Strange Apr 2014 #29

Win! Jamastiene Apr 2014 #90

And when Rush the band is outlawed... madinmaryland Apr 2014 #52

Outlaws and Nickelback fans. Dr. Strange Apr 2014 #82

Dude. The Outlaws are not in the shitty category as RUSH and NICKELBACK... madinmaryland Apr 2014 #83

How DARE you mention Nickelback and Rush in the same category U4ikLefty Apr 2014 #89

Other than the fact that they're both Canadian... Dr. Strange Apr 2014 #92

Put me in jail becasue Rush is the best! U4ikLefty Apr 2014 #88

It seems to me that the proper course of action here would be to attack Iraq. nt Zorra Apr 2014 #20

And if that doesn't work, IronGate Apr 2014 #26

LOL underpants Apr 2014 #35

and .... All forks should be confiscated ... Now .... MindMover Apr 2014 #31

After all, they're just multi-pronged assault knives. nt Bazinga Apr 2014 #63

Excellent post. underpants Apr 2014 #33

So, this is another thread about guns, eh? Skidmore Apr 2014 #38

Pretty much. rrneck Apr 2014 #44

For some, everything is ultimately about guns. nt hack89 Apr 2014 #47

You ain't wrong. (n/t) Iggo Apr 2014 #59

But the incredible thing is there are RW nutters who make these sort of arguments muriel_volestrangler Apr 2014 #50

Quelle surprise! Lizzie Poppet Apr 2014 #57

Cars ARE regulated! Warpy Apr 2014 #55

ONLY if they're used in public. beevul Apr 2014 #71

you could not sell it though CreekDog Apr 2014 #74

Why not? n/t oneshooter Apr 2014 #80

Gun nuts jehop61 Apr 2014 #66

The rest of the world looks at U.S gun "laws"... NealK Apr 2014 #67

And some of us look at places with strict gun control... beevul Apr 2014 #72

you're not convincing anyone CreekDog Apr 2014 #75

28 recs out of 77 posts and you think its a mandate? TheSarcastinator Apr 2014 #78

i take those 28 more seriously than i take your sniping CreekDog Apr 2014 #79

Recommendations are highly over rated. You can call the president an asshole and get 200 recs. NYC_SKP Apr 2014 #86

I wish I understood if the OP is pro knife ownership or oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #69

the post was about regulation CreekDog Apr 2014 #76

Your logic is like a hurricane. NYC_SKP Apr 2014 #84

Mostly everyone else gets it CreekDog Apr 2014 #85

They will pry my knife collection out of my cold, dead hands... Jamastiene Apr 2014 #91

the only solution to a bad cook with a knife is a good cook with a knife CreekDog Apr 2014 #93

Knives don't cut veggies. Jamastiene Apr 2014 #94