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Wash. state Desk Jet

(3,426 posts)
49. It reads like scam.
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 05:07 PM
Apr 2014

And the story is typical of scammers.Food store parking lots is just where scammers operate and many of those stores also have gas pumps. When you toss the coin up and give them something, you must also be alert to your surroundings . Scamers are predators.A situation such as you described can turn ugly fast.

The car also allows them to change shopping parking lot areas or localities to operate in, in some cases it is a full time occupation. As is drugs and alcohol abuse. So it was the store or work, the store where pan handling can be easy pick'ens. I have heard that same story 1000 or more times at least. The other one is the baby needs diapers & formula and now he is going to
miss a job interview because there is not enough gas to get there or back and his unemployment ran out and the rent is soon due. It goes on and on. On and on in those parking lots that are big and full of patrons coming and going .My work takes me all over the city and I see the same sham time and time again. Sometimes faces I saw in a different part of town across town, same story,same act. They like food store parking lots better than shopping mall parking lots because security at shopping mall parking lots is far better than food store parking lots. Less or no security means little to no chance of being run off.

At food stores it is the shift managers responsibility to run them off. And if there is or has been a run on problem with panhandling at your local, the shift managers at the food stores are obligated to tell you about that problem should you confront them about it, because if you are robbed in their parking lot,that becomes a matter for corporate security at the district management level. The scamers operate in time allotments because they know sooner or later somebody will alert store management.The automobile is the quick escape. They like to pick as a matter of preference shoppers leaving the store rather entering by way of the parking lot. They move in between cars from row to row in the approach-it can look like the shortest distance between two points, but the parked cars offer camouflage ,like a buffer zone between the pan handler and the security cameras. But if foot traffic is slow going,they will panhandle coming and going .Many shopping mall parking lots now also have mobile security units on patrol in the parking lots, that is part of reason why food store parking lots offer a better chance at the gain.

In some food stores pictures of chronic repeat panhandlers that have been run off many times and also run off at other food stores owned by the same food store chain are posted in the managers office. Many in those pictures have lengthy rap sheets -petty theft, disorderly ,and public nuisance type charges, dui's, drunk and disorderly, drug possession and so fourth.

Some of the pan handlers carry empty gas containers at gas station food marts to lend some validity to the scam.Also if a city ordnance is in place prohibiting pan handling, that may be a way around the ordnance-the gas container.

We donate to food banks and charitable organizations that assist such people in need .It good for them and it's good for you. and when we drive by local food banks from time to time and see the lines, we know we have done something good and continue to do so.Because the truth is there for you to see.

You see in the worst case scenario a free tank of gas and what little cash and change you have on hand could later lead to somebody across town who opens their wallet in a parking lot who happens to be carrying a considerable amount of cash and credit cards may be conked over the head than robbed because a full tank of gas got the scamers all the way to virgin territory.A locality where there is no competition between scamers. What the scammers call easy pick'ens.

Management at food chain stores have all the information about it, as does shopping mall security operations.

No doubt this not a popular view to it, but it is reality based and supported by facts.



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You did more than most people would. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2014 #1
It's okay. You still gave her *something*, right? AverageJoe90 Apr 2014 #2
I think it is great that you didn't question upaloopa Apr 2014 #3
Actually, you did a better thing Warpy Apr 2014 #4
That's a great perspectrive. phylny Apr 2014 #6
The likelihood of such people being scam artists is why I never give to them. Jgarrick Apr 2014 #21
If they are scammers.... ohheckyeah Apr 2014 #25
+1,000 ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #28
I absolutely agree. Jackpine Radical Apr 2014 #51
My dad taught me that lesson long ago ... aggiesal Apr 2014 #61
An excellent thought. Helpful too. GoneFishin Apr 2014 #70
Thank you wryter2000 Apr 2014 #52
+1 n/t JoeyT Apr 2014 #57
Yep, totally agree... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2014 #64
That's the way I've always approached it. Aristus Apr 2014 #67
I assume most people who approach me with a bus/gas money scenario are "scammers" -- however Arugula Latte Apr 2014 #26
I tend to give, regardless of the number of scams in the world. LanternWaste Apr 2014 #27
Me too. I even give to the honest ones who want a bottle, they probably need that bottle Warpy Apr 2014 #47
I've been approached by the same people with the same story over and over. Demobrat Apr 2014 #32
You have to pay close attention.. sendero Apr 2014 #37
You should feel good that you gave...nothing else should matter. blueamy66 Apr 2014 #60
How was she shamed if she was a scammer? arcane1 Apr 2014 #29
She might not.. sendero Apr 2014 #38
Because she took the last few dollars from a real poor person. Warpy Apr 2014 #46
Ahh, go it! That makes sense. arcane1 Apr 2014 #48
Please don't feel bad-at least you cared Stargazer99 Apr 2014 #5
at a gas station a few years back flyingfysh Apr 2014 #7
Good move packman Apr 2014 #8
Don't feel bad, you did more than most would have. notadmblnd Apr 2014 #9
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This message was self-deleted by its author A-Schwarzenegger Apr 2014 #18
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I ran out of gas by accident, called triple A but they never came hollysmom Apr 2014 #20
You did the right thing, in either case. closeupready Apr 2014 #11
You helped. You done good. If there is a next time you'll remember to do it. applegrove Apr 2014 #12
Don't feel bad pinboy3niner Apr 2014 #13
NEVER take a stranger to a cash machine with you. Divernan Apr 2014 #35
Most of us wouldn't have thought of EVERYTHING we might have done; elleng Apr 2014 #14
Yep. Scam. Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #15
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I don't believe a lot of those 'swindler' stories either. Whisp Apr 2014 #22
You did a good thing and you're kicking yourself for not doing a gooder thing. Glassunion Apr 2014 #16
Having worked in NYC for so many years, there were people with well rehearsed scams, hollysmom Apr 2014 #19
Living in San Francisco for a decade has done that to me too. arcane1 Apr 2014 #43
You did a very good thing, more than most people would have. NaturalHigh Apr 2014 #23
How to Spot the "no gas" Travel Scam DesMoinesDem Apr 2014 #24
She said her husband and kids were in the car, they spent all their money and WIC money buying food lunasun Apr 2014 #63
You responded perfectly. SamKnause Apr 2014 #30
Could have been a scam or it could be legitimate. MineralMan Apr 2014 #31
That's how I do too. Once, a guy came to my office on Christmas eve saying he had lost everything, Hoyt Apr 2014 #41
I'm too cynical wercal Apr 2014 #33
if the price for helping others is occasionally being taken for a ride - for me it is a price worth Douglas Carpenter Apr 2014 #36
Yes.. sendero Apr 2014 #40
best answer. Whisp Apr 2014 #53
Not me. Professional scammers are lying sociopaths who are expert at recognizing and preying Zorra Apr 2014 #58
Been in that boat before. Took a young man grocery shopping, and tried to connect GreenPartyVoter Apr 2014 #39
Don't beat yourself up over it, most people would have said they couldn't help Rex Apr 2014 #42
I came out of the docs office last weekend, got in my car and woodsprite Apr 2014 #44
What a great idea! n/t phylny Apr 2014 #62
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It reads like scam. Wash. state Desk Jet Apr 2014 #49
I was hit up at Kroger this past weekend. X_Digger Apr 2014 #65
That is exactly what I meant by be aware of your surroundings. Wash. state Desk Jet Apr 2014 #68
I'm never bothered. It's horribly real, or it's a good story. hunter Apr 2014 #50
It's okay TlalocW Apr 2014 #54
If she was a scammer or not, you showed compassion to a fellow human. SummerSnow Apr 2014 #55
DO NOT BEAT YOURSELF UP OVER THIS!!!! Omaha Steve Apr 2014 #56
Thans for the tip....I'll remember if I get the chance Jake2413 Apr 2014 #59
You did plenty Liberal_in_LA Apr 2014 #66
NEVER give money. If you're gonna give, give the ITEM johnlucas Apr 2014 #69
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