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In reply to the discussion: Never before in all our history have these forces been so united against one candidate [View all]zeemike
(18,998 posts)11. The Business Plot
The Business Plot was an alleged political conspiracy in 1933. Retired Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler claimed that wealthy businessmen were plotting to create a fascist veterans' organization and use it in a coup d'état to overthrow President of the United States Franklin D. Roosevelt, with Butler as leader of that organization. In 1934, Butler testified to the Special Committee on Un-American Activities Congressional committee (the "McCormack-Dickstein Committee"
on these claims.[1] In the opinion of the committee, these allegations were credible.[2] No one was prosecuted.
At the time of the incidents, news media dismissed the plot, with a New York Times editorial characterizing it as a "gigantic hoax".[3] While historians have questioned whether or not a coup was actually close to execution, most agree that some sort of "wild scheme" was contemplated and discussed.[2][4][5][6][7]
On July 17, 1932, thousands of World War I veterans converged on Washington, D.C., set up tent camps, and demanded immediate payment of bonuses due to them according to the World War Adjusted Compensation Act of 1924 (the original act made the bonuses initially due no earlier than 1925 and no later than 1945). Walter W. Waters, a former Army sergeant, led this "Bonus Army". The Bonus Army was encouraged by an appearance from retired Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler; as a popular military figure of the time, Butler had some influence over the veterans. A few days after Butler's arrival, President Herbert Hoover ordered the marchers removed, and U.S. Army cavalry troops under the command of General Douglas MacArthur destroyed their camps.
Butler, although a self-described Republican, responded by supporting Franklin D. Roosevelt in the 1932 U.S. presidential election.[8]
By 1933 Butler started denouncing capitalism and bankers, saying as a Marine general he was "a racketeer for capitalism."[9]
At the time of the incidents, news media dismissed the plot, with a New York Times editorial characterizing it as a "gigantic hoax".[3] While historians have questioned whether or not a coup was actually close to execution, most agree that some sort of "wild scheme" was contemplated and discussed.[2][4][5][6][7]
On July 17, 1932, thousands of World War I veterans converged on Washington, D.C., set up tent camps, and demanded immediate payment of bonuses due to them according to the World War Adjusted Compensation Act of 1924 (the original act made the bonuses initially due no earlier than 1925 and no later than 1945). Walter W. Waters, a former Army sergeant, led this "Bonus Army". The Bonus Army was encouraged by an appearance from retired Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler; as a popular military figure of the time, Butler had some influence over the veterans. A few days after Butler's arrival, President Herbert Hoover ordered the marchers removed, and U.S. Army cavalry troops under the command of General Douglas MacArthur destroyed their camps.
Butler, although a self-described Republican, responded by supporting Franklin D. Roosevelt in the 1932 U.S. presidential election.[8]
By 1933 Butler started denouncing capitalism and bankers, saying as a Marine general he was "a racketeer for capitalism."[9]
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Never before in all our history have these forces been so united against one candidate [View all]
MannyGoldstein
Apr 2014
OP
Like most of our presidents of the two major parties, Teddy was ambivalent toward the rich.
merrily
Apr 2014
#101
A few here would jump all over his supporters claiming he's "unelectable".
Spitfire of ATJ
Apr 2014
#9
Dems want to be known for *sucker* punching hippies. (At least inside the Beltway)
Spitfire of ATJ
Apr 2014
#42
If he were alive today, and president, he would accomplish no more than Obama.
Schema Thing
Apr 2014
#12
he had some racist supporters , it's why he opposed the anti lynching bill that liberals in congress
JI7
Apr 2014
#63
No one has any way of knowing that. Imaginary Presidencies are silly ways to make a point.
merrily
Apr 2014
#97
" The Republicans are bumbling idiots; why do the Democrats let them win so often?"
merrily
Apr 2014
#99
Bashing a Democratic President like FDR on a Democratic forum. Did you ever think we would
sabrina 1
Apr 2014
#26
Well, Obama does have a D after his name, but as far as most of his policy goes
cui bono
Apr 2014
#77
Bashing a Democratic President like [Obama] on a Democratic forum. Did you ever think we would
randome
Apr 2014
#83
Right Wing talking points about FDR are very recognizable to those of us who have been around
sabrina 1
Apr 2014
#96
As to the development of nuclear weapons, the Nazis were well on their way to develop them.
Kablooie
Apr 2014
#27
In the way that Obama is responsible for droning wedding parties and small kids
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2014
#36
Drone killings don't count you see because children blown to bits are nothing more than "bug splats"
Dragonfli
Apr 2014
#76
Spit it out Sid, dont you think FDR was a good president? Tell us what you really think.
rhett o rick
Apr 2014
#39
K&R for the President who was the first I remember - even if it was his death I remember. My
jwirr
Apr 2014
#50
"It is an old strategy of tyrants to delude their victims into fighting their battles for them"
abelenkpe
Apr 2014
#54
for sure.. my Dad was named Delano because of FDR. but compare the congresses they had.
dionysus
Apr 2014
#111
...and was elected to four (4) terms. He had the advantage of time in addition to everything else.
Hekate
Apr 2014
#112
my Dad's name is Delano, and i think he wanted to name me Franklin , but Mom overruled with Matthew.
dionysus
Apr 2014
#113
Can you EVEN imagine those words slipping by the lips of ANY President since Reagan?
Junkdrawer
Apr 2014
#120