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In reply to the discussion: Woo is woo. [View all]SidDithers
(44,333 posts)135. Worst woo ever - Bleach enemas for children to cure their autism...
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2012/05/25/selling-bleach-as-a-cure-for-autism/
This is why some of us rail against woo so hard. Because there are people out there who have convinced credulous parents that their child can be cured with a fucking bleach enema!
Sid
What condition, though, did I neglect? Well, given that this post is about Autism One, the answer should be obvious. Yep, as my reader pointed out, MMS is being featured in a talk at Autism One on Sunday by a woman named Kerri Rivera, who boasts of 38 Children Recovered in 20 months:
Yes, Autism One is featuring a talk by a woman whose preferred form of therapy, besides hyperbaric oxygen, is to subject autistic children to industrial bleach in the deluded belief that she can recover autism with it. Rivera, it turns out, is a woman who runs a clinic in Puerto Vallarta, Mexico that she calls AutismO2 Clinica Hyperbarica. If her website is any indication, Rivera gives autistic children MMS by mouth and by enema. (Yes, she subjects autistic children to bleach enemas.) Heres the protocol:
Elsewhere, we see this:
So lets see. It appears to me that proponents of MMS not only give MMS to autistic children orally, but bathes them in it and gives them enemas with it. For example, get a load of this webinar about using MMS Jim Humble (the originator of MMS quackery) himself! Predictably, it starts with a medical disclaimer (i.e., quack Miranda warning) and then devolves from there:
This presentation will outline the approach Kerri has used successfully to help recover 38 children from a diagnosis of Autism. She will explain how MMS (chlorine dioxide) has become the missing piece to the autism puzzle for so many of the families that she works with. MMS is available worldwide, and is extremely cost effective, bringing recovery in reach of all families, despite economic or geographic limitations. This presentation seeks to prove that Autism truly is curable.
Yes, Autism One is featuring a talk by a woman whose preferred form of therapy, besides hyperbaric oxygen, is to subject autistic children to industrial bleach in the deluded belief that she can recover autism with it. Rivera, it turns out, is a woman who runs a clinic in Puerto Vallarta, Mexico that she calls AutismO2 Clinica Hyperbarica. If her website is any indication, Rivera gives autistic children MMS by mouth and by enema. (Yes, she subjects autistic children to bleach enemas.) Heres the protocol:
Enema:
10-15 drops MMS enabled and 500 mL water
In the colon for 12 30 minutes
Use pipette and syringe
Is applied 2 or 3 times per week
Elsewhere, we see this:
Kerri will be discussing recent protocol developments around MMS and Autism, such as loading the dose, the baby bottle, the baking soda mix, enemas, baths, and how to handle a fever.
So lets see. It appears to me that proponents of MMS not only give MMS to autistic children orally, but bathes them in it and gives them enemas with it. For example, get a load of this webinar about using MMS Jim Humble (the originator of MMS quackery) himself! Predictably, it starts with a medical disclaimer (i.e., quack Miranda warning) and then devolves from there:
This is why some of us rail against woo so hard. Because there are people out there who have convinced credulous parents that their child can be cured with a fucking bleach enema!
Sid
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What about that stuff you sprinkle on breakfast cereal to neutralize the radiation from Fukishima?
arcane1
Apr 2014
#1
wait... didn't he say that even hippies would NOT want to be associated with such woo?
dionysus
Apr 2014
#32
Yep. Me too. Unfortunately I thought the scene turned sour around mid '93.
Warren DeMontague
Apr 2014
#46
I stopped going when I noticed how many people were selling crap in the parking lot… and tickets
KittyWampus
Apr 2014
#47
Eat garlic with every meal not only does it make all things taste better but it'll also increase
Arcanetrance
Apr 2014
#5
I use garlic to fight fungal infections. Works like a charm. Is that woo? Because
applegrove
Apr 2014
#101
Well, garlic repells vampires, and you're lucky that you haven't been attacked by one.
arcane1
Apr 2014
#12
Using ones diet to improve ones health isn't woo. I feel really sorry for you.
KittyWampus
Apr 2014
#18
So go to the freaking religion/spirituality forum and post your woo threads.Maybe you aren't
KittyWampus
Apr 2014
#43
I think it's entirely possible that chiropractic adjustment can alleviate pain caused by pinched
Maedhros
Apr 2014
#49
And no one would suspect that rheumatoid arthritis would be linked to microbes in the gut...
drokhole
Apr 2014
#68
Yes, actually it is. I had a doctor tell me that if I went to a chiropractor it would get better....
Logical
Apr 2014
#54
In February, while playing tennis, I got a pain in my lower back and...
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
Apr 2014
#100
Animals can't manufacture a placebo response. They either get relief or they don't.
riderinthestorm
Apr 2014
#133
right, giving horse piss to menopausal women so they get breast cancer isn't woo.
KittyWampus
Apr 2014
#45
The military, out of desperation (pain meds aren't working), has turned to acupuncture...
drokhole
Apr 2014
#73
Ontological Dawkinsite materialism is woo, too. So is the "gateway drug" theory.
AverageJoe90
Apr 2014
#56
Is it "woo" to spend more money for health care and get worse results than many nations
jtuck004
Apr 2014
#72
"...we asked [the NIH] 'do we have good evidence to show that acupuncture is safe and effective..."
drokhole
Apr 2014
#76
So every one of the good DUers who have been helped are simply idiots prone to a placebo?
riderinthestorm
Apr 2014
#94
I wouldn't call it "woo", or 2nd guess someone's path to sobriety- I disagree that it's the ONLY way
Warren DeMontague
Apr 2014
#91
Did you read my link? Many DUers with experience in other 12 step programs
riderinthestorm
Apr 2014
#93
No, I'm not "condemning them too as idiots buying into snake oil". If I was, I would say that.
Warren DeMontague
Apr 2014
#98
Yep... We've Got It All Figured Out... Just Like Before Galileo, Einstein, Currie...
WillyT
Apr 2014
#83
The only people more lacking in critical thinking skills than woo peddlers...
Bjorn Against
Apr 2014
#97
and yet thousands of unnecessary operations are performed in the United States each year
Samantha
Apr 2014
#103
Chiropractic is woo when used to treat actual back problems and not crap like asthma?
moriah
Apr 2014
#118
see, how they just fit right into this thread ?! They look right at home!
Tuesday Afternoon
Apr 2014
#139