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Cal Carpenter

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15. The system under which he operates his business

Sat Apr 12, 2014, 03:27 PM

Apr 2014

does not obligate him to share profits with his workers.

That's a fact. That's capitalism -- which may, arguably, be anthropomorphized as sociopathic, sure. Ain't no way around it in the big picture of our economic system. Doesn't matter if you or I think it is sick and disgusting and immoral and inhumane.

If one thinks capitalism is okay, then one cannot deny the truth of his statement. His obligations are not to his workers. They are to the company's shareholders and investors.

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Which is because of greedy bastards like you, we'll always need unions in this country... [View all] MrScorpio Apr 2014 OP

that fuckstick actually said that? dhill926 Apr 2014 #1

He is correct. Profit sharing is and always has been at management's discretion. badtoworse Apr 2014 #2

wow. just fucking wow. perhaps, you made a wrong turn on your way to CC? Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #7

I made a factual statement. What do you disagree with? badtoworse Apr 2014 #9

see my post #6 below. = Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #10

The business world is not laid out that way badtoworse Apr 2014 #12

Just because it was done that way in the past does not make it right. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #14

I don't know what to tell you. badtoworse Apr 2014 #19

Most companies don't give bonuses. JaneyVee Apr 2014 #26

Perhaps "most" was an overstatement. badtoworse Apr 2014 #29

Do you think that McDonalds pays its wait staff a bonus? JDPriestly Apr 2014 #37

Speaking for the (power) companies where I have worked, all of the working people got bonuses too. badtoworse Apr 2014 #46

You are lucky to have worked for such enlightened employers. JDPriestly Apr 2014 #50

They worked for the contractor that serviced the building. badtoworse Apr 2014 #53

You are correct. sulphurdunn Apr 2014 #34

Both my Union and personal contracts with employers stipulate a share of certain profits Bluenorthwest Apr 2014 #38

I tend to use the terms "profit sharing" and "bonus" interchangeably, but there are differences. badtoworse Apr 2014 #47

I used to buy Papa John's but because of this jerk I will never buy one of their pizzas again. kimbutgar Apr 2014 #3

I've been union SevenSixtyTwo Apr 2014 #4

Well put sulphurdunn Apr 2014 #35

He's absolutely right though. Cal Carpenter Apr 2014 #5

No, he is not right. He is absolutely Wrong. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #8

The system under which he operates his business Cal Carpenter Apr 2014 #15

We are done here. Good day, Sir. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #16

I think you misunderstand me Cal Carpenter Apr 2014 #17

I am not communist. I am a Democrat. Do not use a sociopath's words to try and justify communism to Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #18

Uh BlindTiresias Apr 2014 #20

NO and good day to you. I do not have time to debate philosophy with you nor, am I in the mood - Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #21

Only sophists move to impasse BlindTiresias Apr 2014 #22

^^This Cal Carpenter Apr 2014 #23

It's ironic to me when people get SO upset at capitalism....... socialist_n_TN Apr 2014 #52

Some seem to be easy prey for propaganda. Capitalism has been sold as rhett o rick Apr 2014 #56

I think what you two are arguing about comes down to the meaning of the word "obligation". Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #25

I'm sure the disagreement is about more than semantics Cal Carpenter Apr 2014 #27

Indeed BlindTiresias Apr 2014 #28

Capitalism is amoral. sulphurdunn Apr 2014 #39

I think that you will find that the countries that treat people most decently are capitalist. Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #41

I think you'll find sulphurdunn Apr 2014 #43

Ah, now we're getting somewhere. Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #44

Not really. Over the long term.......... socialist_n_TN Apr 2014 #51

Only when it is on a short leash. sulphurdunn Apr 2014 #55

Absolutely! sulphurdunn Apr 2014 #36

He is correct in his statements. WhiteTara Apr 2014 #48

"Because the workers are what help make your business successful you have every obligation Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #6

. Jamaal510 Apr 2014 #13

Anyone got a link to this actual quote? I couldn't find it anywhere. Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #11

I agree where is the link? RGinNJ Apr 2014 #31

This image appears on Facebook. Dr. Strange Apr 2014 #33

unfortunately the Gompers philosophy says hfojvt Apr 2014 #24

You can thank Dodge v Ford for this mindset. N/T deathrind Apr 2014 #30

Fuck him then. TRoN33 Apr 2014 #32

K & R !!! WillyT Apr 2014 #40

This is not out of line with things this jerk is known to have said in the past. Brigid Apr 2014 #42

A fake "quote". former9thward Apr 2014 #49

OK, I'm going to call bullshit on this. Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #45

K&R.. butterfly77 Apr 2014 #54