Hillary Clinton is a "populist leaning liberal" on the issues,

[Ken Burch]

146. I wasn't going to call her the "b word"-I hate that term-and this has nothing to do with gender.

Class and upbringing always trump gender.

And yes, she lived in Arkansas for a few years with Bill, but mainly spent the time going to big-ticket fundraisers, working at her upper-class law firm, and staying in a bourgeois cocoon. She never had any Bobby Kennedy-in-Mississippi experiences...she COULDN'T have had and endorsed the DLC and the Third Way.

Look, everything I've ever said about HRC I'd have said in exactly the same way about a man who took the same positions. Her career has nothing to with the work of real fighting feminists like Shirley Chisholm or Bella Abzug. And if she briefly cared about the poor in the 1970's she proved they meant nothing to her anymore when she didn't try to get Bill NOT to sign the welfare "reform" bill(he had the race won even if he vetoed it...nobody who wanted poor women punished for having kids would ever vote for any Democrat anyway. The test of a person you're considering for the presidency is what that person does when doing what's right and standing for those with no voice are unpopular. She failed that test in the Nineties...and part of this party's soul was forever lost when she stood and cheered as Bill SIGNED a bill cutting social assistance down to nothing and making the conditions for getting it humiliating and punitive. Can you still tell me, after that, that she even remembered the voices of the poor? Can you ever be a part of something THAT ugly and ever do anything that could possibly atone for it? Do you think she even wants to atone.


And I don't hate HRC...I just can't see any reason to nominate the least-progressive person who's going to run in 2016. I also don't want Biden, who is the only other possible candidate that year who's as far to the right as HRC is.

Gender has nothing to do with my opinions here...and it can't be feminist to vote for a hawk, an austerity supporter and a free trade(anti-worker and especially anti-female worker, since working-class women are the big victims in globalization) who simply happens to be a woman. Your position here is comparable to saying that British leftists were sexist when they opposed Margaret Thatcher.