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seabeyond

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50. it is also what allows us to have congressman tell women to put an aspirin between our knees,

Sat Apr 12, 2014, 06:42 PM

Apr 2014

get paid less and told to lay back and enjoying it since rape is inevitable.

how about it dude, can i argue it? is it ok with you... dude?

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Kirsten Dunst Says For a Relationship to Work, 'You Need... A Woman to Be a Woman' [View all] alp227 Apr 2014 OP

I do not even know what this means. To be a woman I must be incapable? I need rescuing? seabeyond Apr 2014 #1

Yes. Agschmid Apr 2014 #15

Lol. And how do I reply to that unqualified and absolute yes... seabeyond Apr 2014 #19

It would be nice! Agschmid Apr 2014 #20

funny that a girl with so few happy relationships should give out advice. My roguevalley Apr 2014 #100

it is. i really was clueless who she is. didnt realy care. and have read down below a little seabeyond Apr 2014 #111

I have, upon occasion, needed rescuing. Kber Apr 2014 #53

good for you all. and i hear and respect what you are saying. i have never needed rescuing. seabeyond Apr 2014 #55

Yes you are a woman. Kber Apr 2014 #81

lol kber. and i can certainly go for all that. not the garbage in the Op. nt seabeyond Apr 2014 #83

Her opinion yeoman6987 Apr 2014 #76

why do people keep telling me it is her opinion as if that matters or i care. i do not know who the seabeyond Apr 2014 #77

And the correlary point, from the man's point view: Threedifferentones Apr 2014 #104

i so agree. stuff those emotions boys... cause you are not allowed to feel. have those heart seabeyond Apr 2014 #109

Hillary Clinton, Michelle Obama, and Katie O'Malley would disagree. Dawson Leery Apr 2014 #2

being an actress isn't a very traditional role Enrique Apr 2014 #3

Excellent point. nm rhett o rick Apr 2014 #66

yep n/t Liberal_in_LA Apr 2014 #89

Plenty of relationships work with no woman at all BainsBane Apr 2014 #4

and she's an actress.... steve2470 Apr 2014 #5

I feel like Hollywood has been greatly overvalued rocktivity Apr 2014 #6

I'm a little confused. If she believes that the woman should stay home, cooking and cleaning, Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #7

because gender roles are for the little people not the 1% alp227 Apr 2014 #8

I wonder too. Pity, she seemed so enlightened, unlike that Underwood dingbat. Dawson Leery Apr 2014 #10

Too much knee-jerking here LTR Apr 2014 #40

But she works for a very heteronormative industry, Hollywood. alp227 Apr 2014 #41

ah... so cause she voted kerry i am suppose to embrace to pretend to be stupid, so a man feels like seabeyond Apr 2014 #45

that's bunk... handmade34 Apr 2014 #9

Try: Be whoever and whatever you are, and ignore authoritarian parrots who tell you Zorra Apr 2014 #11

She must be feeling like she doesn't want to take on something treestar Apr 2014 #12

Believe it or not, there are more and more younger women who think this way. reformist2 Apr 2014 #13

Actually, no: Dawson Leery Apr 2014 #16

Actually, yes. The new feminism is actually very upsetting to older feminists. reformist2 Apr 2014 #18

Again wrong. The newest feminist. Our teens, lower 20's even younger are vocal seabeyond Apr 2014 #21

I see it on our local university campus all the time. xmas74 Apr 2014 #90

ah. Mama, you be so proud..... lol. give your little feminist a hug from me. please. seabeyond Apr 2014 #91

I'm so proud. xmas74 Apr 2014 #98

i do not know why i thought, but... i am thrilled you corrected me. seabeyond Apr 2014 #114

Every time I say I'm a feminist I feel as though I have to defend myself. xmas74 Apr 2014 #128

agree. i can remember when i started using both liberal and feminist. seabeyond Apr 2014 #132

I'm a liberal in a congressional district that elected xmas74 Apr 2014 #148

That is what I thought libodem Apr 2014 #136

youa re right on, in your post. everything. i hear ya. seabeyond Apr 2014 #138

It isn't just luck libodem Apr 2014 #140

well libo, this is kinda fun. so thank you. i have thought about this, cause this seabeyond Apr 2014 #141

Backward Catholics are behind this "movement" you speak of. Dawson Leery Apr 2014 #22

what issue do the "older feminists" have with 3rd wave? nt alp227 Apr 2014 #25

to put it simply 3rd wave Refuse to Be That Woman. When, in reality they should be Proud to Be Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #130

"that woman" what? nt alp227 Apr 2014 #137

giving you the benefit of doubt here - further explanation = Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #143

i really think you should give alp the benefit of doubt seabeyond Apr 2014 #144

People will just have to excuse me when I doubt the sincerity of another poster when it comes to Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #145

bah hahahahahah. i am woman, hear me roar. k, that is mine. rise. nt seabeyond Apr 2014 #146

... lol ... Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #147

I'll go with not. Iggo Apr 2014 #110

I'll say nope as well. But perhaps that poster lives in a conservative area bettyellen Apr 2014 #120

Leave it to Beaver/Father Knows Best were nothing more than government propaganda Dawson Leery Apr 2014 #14

Sorry lady�my relationship has 'worked' for 50 years and I call bs on your directives. Tikki Apr 2014 #17

plenty of gals think that way, Kirsten Skittles Apr 2014 #23

She'll blame it on mag taking her out of context. JaneyVee Apr 2014 #24

I think Kirsten Dunst is sexy. n/t leeroysphitz Apr 2014 #26

I guess she is perfectly playing her role to suit you. So you're da man. Totally awesome dude seabeyond Apr 2014 #28

^^this^^ Puzzledtraveller Apr 2014 #94

Stephanie Coontz's "The Way We Never Were" vlakitti Apr 2014 #27

Absolutely catrose Apr 2014 #68

Honey, the feminine is UNvalued. Warpy Apr 2014 #29

Cthulu is pleased with her progress Aerows Apr 2014 #30

Now we all know Dunst is NO BRAINIAC. nt valerief Apr 2014 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author Shankapotomus Apr 2014 #32

My bet is. . . . PosterChild Apr 2014 #33

Wow. Mojo Electro Apr 2014 #34

Huh? nt alp227 Apr 2014 #35

no. there is not. what you see in this thread are people adamently disagreeing with her seabeyond Apr 2014 #37

Are you reading tazkcmo Apr 2014 #39

No there is not, LOL. Quite the opposite. bettyellen Apr 2014 #112

If relationships 'work' because theres a man and a woman... bravenak Apr 2014 #36

I don't want a woman to NEED me. tazkcmo Apr 2014 #38

you listen to Cheap Trick? alp227 Apr 2014 #43

Gazillions of times. n/t tazkcmo Apr 2014 #44

kirsten, until this moment, I thought you were at least a moderately talented actress, niyad Apr 2014 #42

Most of those here on DU lillypaddle Apr 2014 #46

"The fundie liberals." ya. no judgment there. or is this only a one way street for you? seabeyond Apr 2014 #47

DUers are fundie liberals? Perhaps if you disprove of liberal values... bettyellen Apr 2014 #64

No, I didn't say that all DUers are fundie liberals lillypaddle Apr 2014 #67

There's absolutely no radically liberal posts in this thread- bettyellen Apr 2014 #70

Why do you think I am talking about "radically liberal" posts? lillypaddle Apr 2014 #74

I agree elias7 Apr 2014 #101

Agree also Jim Warren Apr 2014 #155

i am having all kinds of excellent conversations in this thread. seabeyond Apr 2014 #157

I agree too. blueamy66 Apr 2014 #105

If someone thinks using sexist slurs like b*tch is okay.... bettyellen Apr 2014 #108

actually, i suggest the person who feels it is sexist to call a woman the b word, yet, also is able seabeyond Apr 2014 #116

I'm left befuddled as to what they would post here that would make them bettyellen Apr 2014 #119

i am familiar with what lilly is talking about. i disagree wth her. the point mostly is,.... seabeyond Apr 2014 #121

Yes, pretending that disagreeing with her is rigid or doesn't mesh bettyellen Apr 2014 #125

I have been a member of DU as long as you have lillypaddle Apr 2014 #134

Well then you know when people whine about being "too PC" bettyellen Apr 2014 #149

Excellent post. Bobbie Jo Apr 2014 #158

If she didn't back pedal and pretend it wasn't about DUers... bettyellen Apr 2014 #163

maybe they are not black and whit.e maybe it is you, making these "fundies" into speaking black and seabeyond Apr 2014 #71

I think the tactic being used here is called: Projection. n/t Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #133

You're saying you meant SOME, but you actually said Most. Iggo Apr 2014 #113

Inartfully spoken (written) lillypaddle Apr 2014 #131

No, you clearly called out most DUers and described them as "fundie liberals" bettyellen Apr 2014 #150

It's pure bigotry in reverse rumdude Apr 2014 #65

again DUDE, it is called DISAGREEING. why is only one side, the side you believe in, seabeyond Apr 2014 #72

I agree lillypaddle Puzzledtraveller Apr 2014 #95

This is the way many people feel and it's perfectly normal rumdude Apr 2014 #48

it is also what allows us to have congressman tell women to put an aspirin between our knees, seabeyond Apr 2014 #50

You're conflating completely separate issues rumdude Apr 2014 #59

no. i am not inflating two separate issues. you are just unable to see hwo they are joined at the seabeyond Apr 2014 #63

My great grandmothers would disagree. Delmette Apr 2014 #49

abso fuckin' lutely. as a woman of privilege lectures women to wait for her white knight. nt seabeyond Apr 2014 #51

She was in a movie "Mona Lisa Smile" TNNurse Apr 2014 #52

+1 Dawson Leery Apr 2014 #56

I love my knight in shining armor very much. DeadLetterOffice Apr 2014 #54

Good for you lillypaddle Apr 2014 #75

Nicely stated. Raine1967 Apr 2014 #85

Did she say it through her husband? JoePhilly Apr 2014 #57

She just wants a man that would walk through fire for her. mathematic Apr 2014 #58

Do what you want and ignore the noise LittleBlue Apr 2014 #60

What she said and what you wrote don't seem comparable... Hip_Flask Apr 2014 #61

yeah,but it doesn't incite the kind of rage the are addicted to Puzzledtraveller Apr 2014 #97

Not to offend Kristen Dunst or her like... aaaaaa5a Apr 2014 #62

I have been on this planet a lot longer than Ms. Dunst and think I know a bit more rhett o rick Apr 2014 #69

Dunst didn't say half of what people in this thread are reading into it. Demit Apr 2014 #102

i believe she was 12 when instructed to kiss a 31 yr old brad pitt. as much as i like pitt, ya.... seabeyond Apr 2014 #118

Not that that was central to my point... Demit Apr 2014 #135

having a crush on an old man and 31 is an old man to a 12 yr old is different than lip locking. seabeyond Apr 2014 #139

Thanks for the lecture. Demit Apr 2014 #152

"Why do you think I need a lecture". this-----> seabeyond Apr 2014 #154

Got it. Demit Apr 2014 #161

and i feel my reply was perfectly in line to what you gave me. that is why i posted, seabeyond Apr 2014 #162

Very well said! CFLDem Apr 2014 #117

Wow, she makes a few Spiderman movies and suddenly yuiyoshida Apr 2014 #73

Yes god forbid she has an opinion Egnever Apr 2014 #99

OK, so now I'm even less impressed than I was before. progressoid Apr 2014 #78

No, you just need people to be authentic. gollygee Apr 2014 #79

Lesbians, of course, would find an alternate meaning in that elised quote. Ken Burch Apr 2014 #80

Really funny how she would know so much. tarheelsunc Apr 2014 #82

No; for a relationship to work, partners should have compatible expectations. n/t winter is coming Apr 2014 #84

I AM a "knight in shining armor" ismnotwasm Apr 2014 #86

Practically pajamas? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2014 #160

I'm not sure I'm doing this relationship thing right. noamnety Apr 2014 #87

It is shap'd, sir, like itself, and it is as broad as it hath breadth; it is just as high as it is, MisterP Apr 2014 #88

A crocodile? ismnotwasm Apr 2014 #142

Sounds like she's watched too many "old fashioned" movies/tv shows Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2014 #92

if it works for her then thats great Puzzledtraveller Apr 2014 #93

Are you really going to value her opinion? MrMickeysMom Apr 2014 #96

So.... let me get this straight... kiawah Apr 2014 #103

It's a good analogy because few had a choice .... bettyellen Apr 2014 #115

huh? I've never heard of that happening. can you okieinpain Apr 2014 #124

Wow, you have loads of reading to do then. bettyellen Apr 2014 #126

Here's just a bit of reading: knitter4democracy Apr 2014 #159

thank you. I was wondering if any one was going to bring that up. n/t. okieinpain Apr 2014 #122

My point was to show a double standard alp227 Apr 2014 #129

I didn't read the Kirsten Dunst article LuvLoogie Apr 2014 #106

Aw, what a sweet little idiot. Iggo Apr 2014 #107

I can't even process these remarks. MadrasT Apr 2014 #123

i know. me, too. lol. my first post. i am not knowing what she is even saying.... lol seabeyond Apr 2014 #127

"The feminine..." LWolf Apr 2014 #151

all of this. wonderful. wonderfully said seabeyond Apr 2014 #156

Wonder how she would feel onecaliberal Apr 2014 #153