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In reply to the discussion: Hey America! Don't like some law? Get together a couple hundred of your friends with guns! [View all]2naSalit
(99,760 posts)I think it would benefit your perspective if you went for a drive out in the Rocky Mountain states, OFF the FREEWAY. You have no clue about which you opine here.
I think, especially in my case where I was flamed for speculating a couple scenarios where the millitiaclowns might have felt a win but not won at all, I say those of you who really don't get what life is like out here should take a road trip and check out the landscape... pictures just don't do it justice.
I happen to live out here in the region and have watched this 2+ decade long train wreck develop... and there are militias in my back yard and my front yard, three within a hundred miles of me (mind you, I often go a hundred miles one way just to go grocery shopping), and that's just in my red state.
The cattle in question in this case are not only on BLM land they are also illegally on lands administered by the NPS - NOT grazing allotment, and this guy is no small fry rancher, but he is a mega-welfare rancher who needs to be reined in. It isn't like he hasn't had twenty one years to comply with the laws that the majority of welfare ranchers sort of abide by (at least they get their damned cows off the range when they're supposed to even if they are running 25-80% more head than the allotment allows - and they pay their fees albeit less than they should be paying).
And yes, they are hurting more than one endangered species, cattle degrade springs and creeks and any place water is located which in turn destroys habitat which in turn depletes entire ecosystems via trophic collapse. Cattle are about the worst thing that has happened to the wild of the west next to humans. Watch this grapic example... http://www.westernwatersheds.org/
So this case is about how some welfare rancher has held the BLM at bay for decades, he has threatened violence in the recent past BTW, and the BLM finally got around to taking action and this is what happened.
Anyone calling for drones, I would think, would be for the drones to take out the damned cows... many of which are feral. So drones might be the answer to this problem and nobody but the cows will be targeted and that could end the whole mess in a matter of days. I'm not talking missiles or bombs just some gunfire would put down a bunch of feral cows and the predators and scavengers will take care of the remains thus feeding some wildlife.
I think this loud-mouthed toad should go to jail along with his ignorant spawn but that might be another day's task. For now, I would be happy to see the cattle off my property, this jerk has already shown he deserves no claim to the ownership of our collective property since he has no proper respect for the land, its owners' rules nor the environment, he has to go along with all his damned cows. His friends need to go home and learn to abide by our social contract or find some other place to be assholes.