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71. that was the right wing's argument

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Sun Apr 13, 2014, 10:03 AM

Apr 2014

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Regardless of what response you favor, BLM did back off in the face of armed intimidation [View all] cthulu2016 Apr 2014 OP

the 2A crowd is as big a threat as any government action & kills more people annually in the USA nt msongs Apr 2014 #1

Any facts to back that up? tolkien90 Apr 2014 #90

Evidently not. n/t Skip Intro Apr 2014 #98

So you think it would be brilliant to give these crazies another "Janet Reno" to rally around? BlueStreak Apr 2014 #2

Agreed. The best course of action now is to keep confrontation to an absolute minimum. Gravitycollapse Apr 2014 #6

Wha? Who are you even talking to? Did you read any of the OP? cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #7

Pretty much yes. Crunchy Frog Apr 2014 #9

That's EXACTLY what the title of the thread suggests BlueStreak Apr 2014 #73

Suggests to YOU, because YOU don't seem to read very clearly cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #74

You state it in the form of an accusation BlueStreak Apr 2014 #77

If we stipulate that you can read then at this point you are simply lying cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #82

So this is about Obama? Who said anything about Obama? BlueStreak Apr 2014 #85

It seems like the poster you are responding to is playing Bodhi BloodWave Apr 2014 #106

So you think it's brilliant to just allow someone to openly flout the law? Jake Stern Apr 2014 #33

And it will embolden them to do more...it always does. zeemike Apr 2014 #38

The government just said through their actions "Do as you wish, we won't stop you" Jake Stern Apr 2014 #44

It may already be too late. zeemike Apr 2014 #49

that was the right wing's argument treestar Apr 2014 #71

"Rubber backbone"? Because they didn't get into a shootout with gun nuts? Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #43

When you walk away from a bully, he doesn't stop being a bully. Jake Stern Apr 2014 #46

And nobody died? How dare they!!!! Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #48

If they would have stood their ground no one would have died. zeemike Apr 2014 #50

You're all over the place. So you like "authoritarians" today? Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #52

I am not either of those extremes. zeemike Apr 2014 #68

Whatevah! Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #103

Right now nobody died but as they get ever more emboldened it will happen nt Jake Stern Apr 2014 #87

Honestly, I think you're in the wrong place. Most folks here spend their time... Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #104

I think someone can be glad that violence was averted ecstatic Apr 2014 #78

And how do you know that it is over? BlueStreak Apr 2014 #79

That's a sensible post cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #83

The gunLOONS are itching for bloodshed and it's just a matter of time UTUSN Apr 2014 #3

itchy fingers backing some cheap ass nut bag lunasun Apr 2014 #11

agree... n/t defacto7 Apr 2014 #31

Would it ever be acceptable madville Apr 2014 #4

Right. It is extraordinary. That doesn't mean it should have been met with force, but cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #8

I keep thinking about christx30 Apr 2014 #29

Let me get this straight, you're trying to conflate armed people defending a person Jake Stern Apr 2014 #47

Yes. I am comparing them. christx30 Apr 2014 #51

What happened after Kelo .... former9thward Apr 2014 #72

That whole decision sickened me. X_Digger Apr 2014 #102

This is one of a few instances where I think authorities responded properly. Gravitycollapse Apr 2014 #5

You make a good point about protection of life defacto7 Apr 2014 #34

I can't believe that so many DUers are okay with this. Crunchy Frog Apr 2014 #10

Middle of nowhere.. hot and dry RobertEarl Apr 2014 #12

I don't disagree, but I am not blase about it. cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #13

No use getting all worked up RobertEarl Apr 2014 #14

No one got shot, people have the right to assemble The Straight Story Apr 2014 #15

I don't know but if this caption is correct I think some cop should have arrested this guy. gvstn Apr 2014 #16

Eric Parker, you are hereby under arrest. Timez Squarez Apr 2014 #20

This man better be answering a knock on the door from LE very soon. TwilightGardener Apr 2014 #22

If this is not a picture op defacto7 Apr 2014 #39

Let me guess airplaneman Apr 2014 #17

BLM needs to hand the matters over to FBI/DEA/DHS/ATFE Timez Squarez Apr 2014 #18

What unit are you currently serving in? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #92

One problem is that they're already making up fables about it starroute Apr 2014 #19

"We remain disappointed..." I guess that's the letter I'll get after TwilightGardener Apr 2014 #21

You gotta be sitting down in protest, completely unarmed for the govt to show Rex Apr 2014 #25

Yup. The left is doing it wrong, obviously. TwilightGardener Apr 2014 #26

It's crap like that christx30 Apr 2014 #36

I agree! Yavapai Apr 2014 #45

What's crap is supporting Bundy coz you don't like cops... Violet_Crumble Apr 2014 #54

So you think the government christx30 Apr 2014 #57

There's peaceful protest, and then there's thugs with guns who think they're above the law... Violet_Crumble Apr 2014 #58

"Thugs with guns that think christx30 Apr 2014 #59

When Occupy has its own militia Crunchy Frog Apr 2014 #70

DU is becoming unrecognizable to me. Crunchy Frog Apr 2014 #66

It looks like this piece of shit is on a road I paid for. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2014 #81

All of a sudden it's become hip to defend people who cheat the government Jake Stern Apr 2014 #89

Yikes maddezmom Apr 2014 #60

Yes I am. christx30 Apr 2014 #61

Well it is a good thing they didn't call in Harold Francis Callahan. Rex Apr 2014 #23

I feel like we live in bizarro world. Peaceful protesters get viciously beaten and pepper sprayed. Taitertots Apr 2014 #24

How is it bizarro world? Demonstrating weakness gets your weakness exploited. Demonstrating... JVS Apr 2014 #27

How Machiavellian. n/t defacto7 Apr 2014 #41

They can't because he's dead and if he wasn't he'd see he accomplished overseer status for TheKentuckian Apr 2014 #62

The loot will always go to the same motherfuckers. Crunchy Frog Apr 2014 #69

I encourage nor espoused any such thing, in fact, I hold the lay down sallys and the get along TheKentuckian Apr 2014 #91

Maybe the hippie approach to politics doesn't trump fighting in the streets. Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #28

The "Gandhi approach" has been greatly overstated in actual effect anyway and to work TheKentuckian Apr 2014 #64

Your words resonate with me. Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #67

and the moral of the story is: sweetapogee Apr 2014 #108

The armed militiamen love it when liberals/progressives get the crap beat out of them by police. Boomerproud Apr 2014 #30

...�"The BLM will continue to work to resolve the matter administratively and judicially" ... struggle4progress Apr 2014 #32

Indeed they do. . . Jake Stern Apr 2014 #35

That would show real lack of imagination struggle4progress Apr 2014 #37

When he finds out that he can't sell cattle that he no longer legally owns ThoughtCriminal Apr 2014 #42

At a minimum the government could have wimped out in style by pretending they meant business. Jake Stern Apr 2014 #40

People with guns showed up. ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #53

its effed up when the guys with guns that back down are the cops. politicman Apr 2014 #56

Would you've been happier if they had a shoot out? nt ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #88

to be honest, yes. politicman Apr 2014 #96

I am not the kind of guy who threatens people with guns. ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #105

because with law, there would be chaos which would mean its more dangerous for human life politicman Apr 2014 #113

The worst atrocities ever committed were perfectly legal. ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #114

Bundy was ready to risk death christx30 Apr 2014 #95

so violent intimidation is enough to stop laws being enforced? politicman Apr 2014 #97

I'm saying that christx30 Apr 2014 #100

Do all you guys hang out in the Israel/Palestine forum? It's strange that the two arguing most.... Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #110

BLM director should be fired immediately Dems to Win Apr 2014 #55

It was just another "Red Line" forthemiddle Apr 2014 #75

This whole thread reminds me of a cartoon Fumesucker Apr 2014 #99

If I were in charge I would have brought in the FBI and even encouraged the militia's to come on Exposethefrauds Apr 2014 #63

Why give the idiot back his cattle? newfie11 Apr 2014 #65

If that infuriates you, ohheckyeah Apr 2014 #115

I live in Western South Dakota newfie11 Apr 2014 #116

LOL... ohheckyeah Apr 2014 #117

exactly - we gave in to a bully . . . and that is not a good thing DrDan Apr 2014 #76

+1000 White might makes right Tom Ripley Apr 2014 #80

Let's face it - the gun nuts want another Ruby Ridge or Waco. . . DinahMoeHum Apr 2014 #84

I was thinking the same thing. No doubt they will build a statue in honor of this guy. Rex Apr 2014 #94

There needs to be serious consequences or there will really be WhiteTara Apr 2014 #86

Here's the only update I've seen on BLM's cattle removal. The source is by a nearby land management ancianita Apr 2014 #93

Domestic terrorists win this one. 6000eliot Apr 2014 #101

Those of y'all who think this is over.. sendero Apr 2014 #107

Agree. nt Quixote1818 Apr 2014 #109

In a nation of laws, there's only one way that this can end. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #111

I hope those who are saying this isn't over are correct. Nine Apr 2014 #112