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BrotherIvan

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102. Thank you

Sun Apr 13, 2014, 11:54 AM

Apr 2014

I do believe it is why myself and likely others are so bitter around here. I don't believe that Democrats are stupid or that they don't know what Democratic Principles are or should be. They run on them; they use them as slogans in award-winning campaigns with beautiful graphics. This fact makes me the most cynical--that my values were repackaged and sold to me with no intention of fulfilling those promises: just ad men crafting a campaign.

There is also a sense that those from our side should know better. My mother used to always hold me to a higher account when I was caught messing around with my friends. And no matter how many excuses or stories I made up to try to deflect blame, she always went straight to the heart of the matter, "Yes, but you know better." So any Democrat acting as though it's a shock that Republicans play dirty is lying. But now it seems as if they have been taking a dive as well.

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Never before in all our history have these forces been so united against one candidate [View all] MannyGoldstein Apr 2014 OP

Oh no, not another Hillary thread..... DJ13 Apr 2014 #1

I Thought This Was About Colbert....nt (sarcasm) global1 Apr 2014 #2

I thought it was about Kerry. Or Dukakis. ....:d:d mylye2222 Apr 2014 #66

Yeah, the 1930s were trippy, all right. randome Apr 2014 #3

Thanks Manny. 99Forever Apr 2014 #4

Didn't they plot to assassinate him also? sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #5

The Business Plot zeemike Apr 2014 #11

Thanks, zeemike. sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #16

Back then they tried it the old school way. zeemike Apr 2014 #23

exactly right, it's that pot of boiling frogs syndrome.. and here we are n/t 2banon Apr 2014 #73

I often wonder if that plot actually succeeded or not. Initech Apr 2014 #20

It did, but not in the old school way zeemike Apr 2014 #24

Don't forget grampa Bush was a key player in that attempted coup LiberalLovinLug Apr 2014 #29

Yep and that makes it so much more interesting. zeemike Apr 2014 #45

If he was alive today he would be excoriated here on DU OKNancy Apr 2014 #6

And praised mightily MannyGoldstein Apr 2014 #7

Aw come on, why you have to bring that up? Rex Apr 2014 #10

The same "response" that used to be limited to the Hard Right Wing. bvar22 Apr 2014 #105

as did his fifth cousin Theodore defacto7 Apr 2014 #69

Much was from Eleanor. nt HooptieWagon Apr 2014 #84

Absolutely. Eleanor was FDR's heart... ananda Apr 2014 #87

Actually, he listened to her most of the time, defacto7 Apr 2014 #108

Like most of our presidents of the two major parties, Teddy was ambivalent toward the rich. merrily Apr 2014 #101

Ambivalent? Theo Roosevelt? defacto7 Apr 2014 #107

I like a lot about Teddy, but we differ in our interpretations. merrily Apr 2014 #117

Have you ever read Doris Kearns-Goodwin's newest biography defacto7 Apr 2014 #118

He was a remarkable man and a remarkable President. merrily Apr 2014 #119

10 n/t whathehell Apr 2014 #91

Are you sure he fought bankers? merrily Apr 2014 #100

A few here would jump all over his supporters claiming he's "unelectable". Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #9

C'mon, you KNOW he is FAR LEFT! adirondacker Apr 2014 #37

Dems want to be known for *sucker* punching hippies. (At least inside the Beltway) Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #42

A few? SwankyXomb Apr 2014 #40

I don't use the ignore function. You miss out on some real humor. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #41

You must have a much higher tolerance SwankyXomb Apr 2014 #55

I'm the type that trolls the trolls. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #61

If he were alive today, and president, he would accomplish no more than Obama. Schema Thing Apr 2014 #12

I think he would Aerows Apr 2014 #52

because he wasn't a magician Schema Thing Apr 2014 #57

I think he would accomplish more heaven05 Apr 2014 #89

well, there is that. Schema Thing Apr 2014 #103

because FDR's congress had huge OKNancy Apr 2014 #59

Are you aware of HOW that huge majority happened? 99Forever Apr 2014 #62

he had some racist supporters , it's why he opposed the anti lynching bill that liberals in congress JI7 Apr 2014 #63

Oh please. 99Forever Apr 2014 #64

Actually, Republicans were in the majority at some points and, even when merrily Apr 2014 #98

No one has any way of knowing that. Imaginary Presidencies are silly ways to make a point. merrily Apr 2014 #97

And he'd still be white, and the filibuster would not be used for every bill treestar Apr 2014 #14

^this^ Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #31

exactly,he had some white racist supporters JI7 Apr 2014 #56

And rightly so, IMHO tazkcmo Apr 2014 #58

Why would he be excoriated for increasing the size of the Supreme Court? merrily Apr 2014 #95

We'd have to form an FDR Group here, wouldn't we? Hekate Apr 2014 #114

Just change the dates and it would apply today zeemike Apr 2014 #8

He thought they were united against him? treestar Apr 2014 #13

When the Democratic Majority Leader of the Senate BrotherIvan Apr 2014 #18

What's a good sound thrashing? treestar Apr 2014 #21

" The Republicans are bumbling idiots; why do the Democrats let them win so often?" merrily Apr 2014 #99

Thank you BrotherIvan Apr 2014 #102

You're welcome. merrily Apr 2014 #104

But in those days you actually had to do the filibuster. zeemike Apr 2014 #25

Well actually BlindTiresias Apr 2014 #46

That last paragraph. JaneyVee Apr 2014 #15

K & R !!! WillyT Apr 2014 #17

Wasn't FDR responsible for the firebombing of Tokyo?... SidDithers Apr 2014 #19

Are you sitting down? MannyGoldstein Apr 2014 #22

Bashing a Democratic President like FDR on a Democratic forum. Did you ever think we would sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #26

Human behavior is a curious thing MannyGoldstein Apr 2014 #28

Actually no, sheshe2 Apr 2014 #70

Well, Obama does have a D after his name, but as far as most of his policy goes cui bono Apr 2014 #77

Well if one were a member of the conservative party in another country Dragonfli Apr 2014 #75

Bashing a Democratic President like [Obama] on a Democratic forum. Did you ever think we would randome Apr 2014 #83

Right Wing talking points about FDR are very recognizable to those of us who have been around sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #96

Why was there no attempt to disrupt the concentration camps? former9thward Apr 2014 #51

Not to mention one other thing he got wrong davidpdx Apr 2014 #109

As to the development of nuclear weapons, the Nazis were well on their way to develop them. Kablooie Apr 2014 #27

Ja. Herr Heisenberg screwed up his calculations. MannyGoldstein Apr 2014 #30

I couldn't have a lower opinion of you anyway. Say what you wish. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #34

^^^this^^^ L0oniX Apr 2014 #92

In the way that Obama is responsible for droning wedding parties and small kids Bluenorthwest Apr 2014 #36

Drone killings don't count you see because children blown to bits are nothing more than "bug splats" Dragonfli Apr 2014 #76

People shouldn't have questioned those things? Hissyspit Apr 2014 #38

Spit it out Sid, dont you think FDR was a good president? Tell us what you really think. rhett o rick Apr 2014 #39

FDR is no Stephen Harper Capt. Obvious Apr 2014 #122

A Canadian insulting FDR on Democratic website. 99Forever Apr 2014 #53

And the Canadians were right there with us as Allies neverforget Apr 2014 #60

Yes, no, yes, yes. HooptieWagon Apr 2014 #86

Well done, Manny! And well said, FDR! Enthusiast Apr 2014 #32

Except BlindTiresias Apr 2014 #47

I didn't want to say that. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #85

File this under: louis-t Apr 2014 #33

K and triple R dotymed Apr 2014 #35

If it hadn't been for FDR, America as we know it today wouldn't exist. reformist2 Apr 2014 #43

Quite simply, FDR saved the world. Literally. Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #44

Recommend! nt Zorra Apr 2014 #48

Hate to be a downer BlindTiresias Apr 2014 #49

Depends on your point of view. randome Apr 2014 #65

Ok BlindTiresias Apr 2014 #67

I would have to agree with you defacto7 Apr 2014 #71

Yeah BlindTiresias Apr 2014 #72

K&R for the President who was the first I remember - even if it was his death I remember. My jwirr Apr 2014 #50

"It is an old strategy of tyrants to delude their victims into fighting their battles for them" abelenkpe Apr 2014 #54

Because they're f**king lazy IkeRepublican Apr 2014 #68

K&R! octoberlib Apr 2014 #74

Rec'd, keep up the good work Corruption Inc Apr 2014 #78

Honored and humbled to see my name listed.... chknltl Apr 2014 #79

K&R for the Greatest President a2liberal Apr 2014 #80

K&R'd! snot Apr 2014 #81

GREATEST. AMERICAN PRESIDENT. EVER. Nanjing to Seoul Apr 2014 #82

for sure.. my Dad was named Delano because of FDR. but compare the congresses they had. dionysus Apr 2014 #111

One can tell ProSense Apr 2014 #88

Old, white, privileged men - give me Barack Obama any day - maced666 Apr 2014 #90

Government by organized money is what we have now. L0oniX Apr 2014 #93

The parallel to the Obama adminsitration is frighting. olegramps Apr 2014 #94

The roots of naysayers run deep... cheapdate Apr 2014 #106

yeah Manny, and he had an indestructible House and Senate. dionysus Apr 2014 #110

...and was elected to four (4) terms. He had the advantage of time in addition to everything else. Hekate Apr 2014 #112

my Dad's name is Delano, and i think he wanted to name me Franklin , but Mom overruled with Matthew. dionysus Apr 2014 #113

In high school I dated a guy whose first name was Roosevelt, after FDR Hekate Apr 2014 #115

my kindergarten was Roosevelt School :) dionysus Apr 2014 #116

Can you EVEN imagine those words slipping by the lips of ANY President since Reagan? Junkdrawer Apr 2014 #120

Make that Kennedy.... Junkdrawer Apr 2014 #121

Each passing year, fewer remember. Octafish Apr 2014 #123

As long as that crime goes unpunished, as long as the perps walk.... Junkdrawer Apr 2014 #124