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JDPriestly

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17. The ACA is far from providing universal healthcare at reasonable prices.

Mon Apr 14, 2014, 02:20 AM

Apr 2014

But it is a first step in the right direction.

We need to keep working to improve the ACA and to add a truly public option.

Thanks for your post and for keeping us mindful of the fact that we have not yet run the distance.

K&R.

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If You Can Stop Circling the Wagons Around the ACA, There is Someone I Would Like You To Meet [View all] McCamy Taylor Apr 2014 OP

Who is preventing the holes in the ACA from being fixed? Republicans or Democrats? KittyWampus Apr 2014 #1

It's OBAMA's FAULT....that RICK PERRY is an ASSHOLE. MADem Apr 2014 #5

Exactly, if OP wants to draw the line on issues with Democratic thinking, blaming Democrats for GOP stevenleser Apr 2014 #54

it IS obama's fault he is black. or is parents fault. presidenting while black. pansypoo53219 Apr 2014 #111

AMEN!!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2014 #140

This kind of stuff really ticks me off. MADem Apr 2014 #129

The author H2O Man Apr 2014 #138

It's not "framing", it's trolling. Over and over again. tridim Apr 2014 #126

When I see it now, I call bullshit on it. MADem Apr 2014 #128

This needless death isn't from the ACA; it's because WhiteTara Apr 2014 #2

I don't think anyone thinks the ACA is perfect Egnever Apr 2014 #3

I share your anger, and her fear. CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2014 #4

I benefit from the ACA. I also don't think that it is the end all and be all of healthcare. 4lbs Apr 2014 #6

The first person to receive a monthly Social Security check was a woman Art_from_Ark Apr 2014 #38

Social Security was never for white men only. SheilaT Apr 2014 #60

Thank you for giving a damn about Opal... grasswire Apr 2014 #7

Why don't you write to your governor and tell him to fix it? He CAN, you know. MADem Apr 2014 #8

Evidently it was a hit and run piece at kos as well. Rex Apr 2014 #73

Ahhhhhh! One of those!!! I'll bet "Opal" lives next door to "Harry and Louise!" MADem Apr 2014 #75

I grieve for Opal. sheshe2 Apr 2014 #9

+1 n/t Lady Freedom Returns Apr 2014 #10

Well said, thank you. SunSeeker Apr 2014 #11

Hello SunSeeker. sheshe2 Apr 2014 #13

Obama should have allowed the single payer advocates to participate in the meetings JDPriestly Apr 2014 #18

That ain't why we didn't get single payer. And it ain't why "Opal" is hurting. SunSeeker Apr 2014 #19

I wasn't arguing that we could have gotten single-payer. JDPriestly Apr 2014 #66

Would her Deductible have been less under the bronze plan magically in California? Dragonfli Apr 2014 #67

Opal would be covered by medicaid in CA. SunSeeker Apr 2014 #87

No, slang is certainly allowed, I just find it is often a sign of a complete lack of education Dragonfli Apr 2014 #88

No, the bronze plan does not suck compared to being uninsured. SunSeeker Apr 2014 #89

It does suck if it can't be used Dragonfli Apr 2014 #100

The bronze plan absolutely can be used by people it was designed for. SunSeeker Apr 2014 #102

Oh, and "ain't" can certainly be used when the mood strikes us.. no matter what Cha Apr 2014 #121

Yes, and "ain't" passes the DU "Check Spelling" button! LOL SunSeeker Apr 2014 #135

Ain't is a word...it's in the dictionary, too. MADem Apr 2014 #107

I was taught differently in school, but then again they also did not teach creationism here Dragonfli Apr 2014 #113

They don't teach creationism in UK, either--and at least one of those dictionaries is British. MADem Apr 2014 #116

Yes, because their presence would have "magically" overcome GOP objections. MADem Apr 2014 #106

Of course, their presence would not have magically overcome GOP objections. JDPriestly Apr 2014 #114

Had he done as you suggest, those naysayers would have picked MADem Apr 2014 #115

I agree that ACA is simply one step on the road. JDPriestly Apr 2014 #117

All you have to do is look to history. Obama did, and that's why he took the path he took. MADem Apr 2014 #118

Then what did you bring up Obama's negotiating skills for? treestar Apr 2014 #137

Oh bullshit on your.. "Obama did not have the courage to do".. you have no idea the kind of courage Cha Apr 2014 #123

SheShe I am finally beginning to understand why a certain cadre here absolutely despises the BOG Number23 Apr 2014 #85

... sheshe2 Apr 2014 #130

The problem with denial is zeemike Apr 2014 #12

It IS Perry's fault. SunSeeker Apr 2014 #27

No it is the doctors fault zeemike Apr 2014 #43

Funny you talk about "Denial" and "Reality" ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #79

Does everything requirer a sarcasm tag? zeemike Apr 2014 #86

To say nothing of "the Democrats" like they're a foreign entity.... nt MADem Apr 2014 #109

Saying it's "the system" lets Perry off the hook. SunSeeker Apr 2014 #90

No it does not let Perry off the hook. zeemike Apr 2014 #97

Rightfully blaming Perry is not a "distraction"...unless you're Perry. nt SunSeeker Apr 2014 #98

Unless you want to blame Perry for the shortcomings of the ACA. zeemike Apr 2014 #99

Perry denied her care, not "shortcomings of the ACA." nt SunSeeker Apr 2014 #101

Perry is a distraction.... sheshe2 Apr 2014 #125

so Perry being a supporter of private free markets with no regulation is not a problem ? JI7 Apr 2014 #29

It appears nobody gets how low income workers can't afford to use the insurance Dragonfli Apr 2014 #68

I get it because I know poor people zeemike Apr 2014 #74

This is just too sad Samantha Apr 2014 #14

I think most of the replies miss the point... Junkdrawer Apr 2014 #15

Not to mention that we already knew the Republicans are assholes. We expected no less GoneFishin Apr 2014 #40

I think you "miss the point". "Medicare" isn't even being debated here. It's Medicaid. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #69

Honestly, I meant Medicaid. Junkdrawer Apr 2014 #70

Thank you for your reminder, MT, that there is so much more to be done. pnwmom Apr 2014 #16

The ACA is far from providing universal healthcare at reasonable prices. JDPriestly Apr 2014 #17

Here in Massachusetts BlindTiresias Apr 2014 #20

Links? What do these "healthcare experts" suggest we do? SunSeeker Apr 2014 #23

Yeah BlindTiresias Apr 2014 #24

Yeah. SunSeeker Apr 2014 #26

Well to be fair BlindTiresias Apr 2014 #28

Of course there need to be changes. But you are not being fair. SunSeeker Apr 2014 #30

Don't be so defensive BlindTiresias Apr 2014 #31

Stop projecting. And that is not what you said. SunSeeker Apr 2014 #92

Jesus man BlindTiresias Apr 2014 #94

Don't like being called out? Don't make stuff up. nt SunSeeker Apr 2014 #103

and when Doctor_J Apr 2014 #49

There was a minor change implemented in March and April. So no, it wont be decades. stevenleser Apr 2014 #52

Why do people always think incrementalism runs in a progressive direction? BlindTiresias Apr 2014 #65

Why do you think that change will happen overnight!??! sheshe2 Apr 2014 #131

Just giving the model of the theory BlindTiresias Apr 2014 #133

Well, change happened overnight under George W. Bush... derby378 Apr 2014 #139

Well, golly gee, I was in a Mass General ICU yesterday at the bedside of a very ill relative, MADem Apr 2014 #57

Yeah, I was being imprecise BlindTiresias Apr 2014 #95

Was the professor sitting in a faculty chair endowed by the Koch Brothers? MADem Apr 2014 #104

No BlindTiresias Apr 2014 #105

Your "circling the wagons" title suggests Dems are ignoring people the GOP governors are killing. SunSeeker Apr 2014 #21

Perry forced her from the clinic to the exchanges.... Junkdrawer Apr 2014 #22

It depends on your state. SunSeeker Apr 2014 #25

Rick Perry's lap OR Chief Justice Roberts' lap? Junkdrawer Apr 2014 #32

Perry. Roberts will not be facing election. jeff47 Apr 2014 #58

Roberts did not make Perry do it. It is in Perry's lap. SunSeeker Apr 2014 #91

Rick Perry is trying to kill her? ProSense Apr 2014 #39

Ahem.... Junkdrawer Apr 2014 #42

"I guess the question now is who told the county this." ProSense Apr 2014 #50

Ah, but that would mean going against the 'tough guy' GOP instead of the 'weak' Dems. I've seen how freshwest Apr 2014 #63

Thank you, Sunseeker. Cha Apr 2014 #122

i support the ACA because its the best thing that sad congress could approve. we should have dionysus Apr 2014 #33

First time insured are the constituency who will eventually get us single payer IronLionZion Apr 2014 #34

Morning Plum: "Obamacare �horror stories� fall apart under scrutiny." Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #35

The information about the bronze plan has been available from the day plans were available. Ms. Toad Apr 2014 #36

Maine's GOP Governor Vetoes Medicaid Expansion For Third Time ProSense Apr 2014 #37

This is posted at Daily Kos: ProSense Apr 2014 #41

Thanks for digging that up ProSense. Seems the o.p. vanished, and isn't taking questions. The..... Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #71

Posted on two sites and didn't respond to comments/feedback in either. That is too weird Number23 Apr 2014 #84

Weird? Or Predictable? ProfessorGAC Apr 2014 #132

I had similar results in Nebraska and was vociferously attacked for raising the point. ReverendDeuce Apr 2014 #44

I don't think any of us are... Adrahil Apr 2014 #46

These kinds of articles piss me off. Adrahil Apr 2014 #45

It's some of them, in collusion with the Republicans. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2014 #53

They blew an epic opportunity in 2009-2010, and the fan club has become too emotionally committed Doctor_J Apr 2014 #47

Really? ProSense Apr 2014 #51

Your fantasies do not an opportunity make. jeff47 Apr 2014 #61

This has nothing to do with "circling the wagons around the ACA" Skinner Apr 2014 #48

Well put, but a shame this even needs to be said. stevenleser Apr 2014 #55

Bingo. nt MADem Apr 2014 #56

THANK! YOU! Seems the o.p. dropped this on us, and ran for the exits? Hasn't responded once. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #64

I don't think there's any real response to our objections to this turd of a tale. MADem Apr 2014 #76

Surely, no one would waste their time & ours, making this shit up, right?????!!! Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #81

Indeed... MADem Apr 2014 #82

It stretches credulity, and after I read ProSense's response, I knew this story was pure unadultered Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #83

+1 SunSeeker Apr 2014 #136

How about the bigger situation which has always been health care for all? Corruption Inc Apr 2014 #77

Still 30 million without in 2024 Doctor_J Apr 2014 #78

Yeah, well President Obama didn't have a magic wand.. so sad for all of us. Cha Apr 2014 #124

Thank you Skinner! SCOTUS is the source of most of opur problems today. Why 2014 elections kelliekat44 Apr 2014 #96

I think the OP was referring to people who don't believe or even want to discuss these stories. Blue Diadem Apr 2014 #110

Thank you, Skinner. Cha Apr 2014 #120

so it's the ACA's/Dems' fault? No, it's Rick Perry's and the GOP's fault wordpix Apr 2014 #59

I don't understand why they didn't choose a Silver Plan. Walk away Apr 2014 #62

A hit and run post about the ACA, doesn't surprise me none. Rex Apr 2014 #72

+1 SunSeeker Apr 2014 #93

The ACA is not enough. Better than doing nothing, but still insufficient. nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #80

73 people recced this thread without realizing it was a hit-and-run post scheming daemons Apr 2014 #108

Yup. How does that saying go? "You can fool some of the people all of the time...." SunSeeker Apr 2014 #112

That's a drop in the bucket of the ignorance permeating around here. Cha Apr 2014 #119

I looked at the rec list, turns out I didn't have to. All the usual suspects are there. tridim Apr 2014 #127

Post removed Post removed Apr 2014 #134

The OP has 13,000+ posts. BlueCheese Apr 2014 #141