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55. Does anybody really think

Mon Apr 14, 2014, 12:00 PM

Apr 2014

that these militias have now "made their point", are satisfied and are returning to their homes to hang up their guns?

It's really astonishing that some still do not have a clue as to what kind of people we are dealing with here.

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Never, EVER, give in to Bullies and Terrorists. [View all] riqster Apr 2014 OP

There's some logic there el_bryanto Apr 2014 #1

In this case, the unreasonable are in the saddle: riqster Apr 2014 #2

Yeah, let's send troops to Crimea NOW. Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #3

Not what I said. riqster Apr 2014 #4

You're right! A bloodbath with a lot of dead people on both sides Lurks Often Apr 2014 #5

I'm sure the widows and families of the fallen officers would have fully understood. Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #6

Everyone assumes the militia would have opened fire. riqster Apr 2014 #9

The decision to de-escalate the situation remains the correct one Lurks Often Apr 2014 #17

Again, I support not shooting. I do not support returning the cattle, riqster Apr 2014 #21

Is it complete capitulation? treestar Apr 2014 #26

It is capitulation. riqster Apr 2014 #29

So he'll be able to keep his cattle on that land forever? treestar Apr 2014 #40

That is the situation on the ground. riqster Apr 2014 #42

It's like legislation treestar Apr 2014 #47

I hope you are right. riqster Apr 2014 #51

They all took an oath to uphold the constitution from enemies WhiteTara Apr 2014 #7

Sure. The next time a hostage has a gun pointed at his/her head, just say goodbye. randome Apr 2014 #8

No guns were pointed at any heads. Only threats. riqster Apr 2014 #11

Next time a hostage has a gun pointed at his/her head Crunchy Frog Apr 2014 #57

Then you approve moondust Apr 2014 #10

Not remotely similar. riqster Apr 2014 #12

But supposing one of them had gotten shot? treestar Apr 2014 #24

These are possible outcomes and worthy of consideration. riqster Apr 2014 #27

They aren't terrorists treestar Apr 2014 #41

The rancher, by allying himself with a domestic terror group, is employing terrorist means. riqster Apr 2014 #50

Which domestic terror group? treestar Apr 2014 #76

They are terrorists. Crunchy Frog Apr 2014 #54

SOCOM is always taking volunteers. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #65

I have no idea what you're even talking about. Crunchy Frog Apr 2014 #67

Well, thank Goodness you are here to defend the republic. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #68

I'm not defending the republic, just expressing an opinion. Crunchy Frog Apr 2014 #69

Violence? Like when they broke-up OWS? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #71

That's an interestiing point. riqster Apr 2014 #89

Partly Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #102

So they capitulated too? treestar Apr 2014 #78

I don't think Mr. Blunt and Cranky has been in that many fights since his grade school days aikoaiko Apr 2014 #13

Probably right. And also probably never served in anything like federal law enforcement, either. randome Apr 2014 #14

Backing away from a gunfight, OK. Giving back the cattle? Stupid. riqster Apr 2014 #15

lol - the link says "cattle rachner" Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #16

I will take advice from Mr. Tzu sarisataka Apr 2014 #52

The BLM retreat will embolden the crazies. hollowdweller Apr 2014 #18

I always figured B&C was a parody site, now I know that it is -- Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #19

Factual rebuttals welcomed. riqster Apr 2014 #30

The fact is the author is guilty of the exact same thing it accuses others of being. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #34

Not convincing. riqster Apr 2014 #39

. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #44

Ugh, being a primitive caveman whose first answer is violence is not quinnox Apr 2014 #20

And when violence is directed upon you, what is your answer? riqster Apr 2014 #22

9/11 was directed at all Americans but I still suspect our response was an ill-considered one. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #28

In that case, we are in agreement. riqster Apr 2014 #31

I'd prefer to talk and negotiate over lobbing some nukes quinnox Apr 2014 #32

No shooting is good. Giving back the cattle, not so much. riqster Apr 2014 #37

Being able to say you were in the right is cold comfort when families are burying their dead pinboy3niner Apr 2014 #45

Possibly. But I contend that a defensive action is not equivalent to an offensive one. riqster Apr 2014 #49

Remember when Bush was in office and everything the neocons looked at was a terr'ism? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #25

No argument there. riqster Apr 2014 #33

If one of them had gotten killed treestar Apr 2014 #23

Non-violence is applauded. Rewarding the violent for their behavior is not. riqster Apr 2014 #35

Do we know they will end up rewarded for it? treestar Apr 2014 #38

He has already been rewarded. He is getting his cattle back, and will be grazing for free. riqster Apr 2014 #46

Did the actually point guns though? treestar Apr 2014 #74

Point of order. IronGate Apr 2014 #81

AP reports that BLM released "about" 400 pinboy3niner Apr 2014 #82

Now if the BLM set a bounty of $500 on each trespassing cow brought in... Hugin Apr 2014 #85

Thanks, I'd read somewhere that he only got 100 back. IronGate Apr 2014 #86

The greatest misfortune in this 2naSalit Apr 2014 #83

It stops being a civil matter Crunchy Frog Apr 2014 #56

Who pointed a a gun? treestar Apr 2014 #75

Here... pinboy3niner Apr 2014 #80

Wonder if they'll have the guts to arrest that guy for that. JoeyT Apr 2014 #88

Who is he aiming at? treestar Apr 2014 #92

The BLM base was under the bridge on the opposite side of the armed mob. Hugin Apr 2014 #94

Love the fact you say Russia stole part of a foreign country... cherokeeprogressive Apr 2014 #36

Very well, how about Reuters? riqster Apr 2014 #48

Obama wont risk angering filthy teaparty racists randys1 Apr 2014 #43

That sounds exactly like what a RWer expects a liberal to sound like. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #53

do you also call the person who POINTS OUT RACISM randys1 Apr 2014 #72

Lemme guess Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #73

Does anybody really think meanit Apr 2014 #55

Yah, that's part of my OP. Short term is one thing, long term another. riqster Apr 2014 #58

Wrong. You don't fight battles to win Pyrrhic victories. Strategy 101 LittleBlue Apr 2014 #59

Wrong back atcha. riqster Apr 2014 #60

I do not see capitulation LittleBlue Apr 2014 #61

It's not just grazing rights. Environmental considerations are in play. riqster Apr 2014 #63

What bloodbath? meanit Apr 2014 #66

I really would not have shed a tear if the militia men were killed by Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #62

I agree with the second part of your post, but not the first. riqster Apr 2014 #64

I'm pretty much in complete agreement. I wouldn't shed a tear either. Crunchy Frog Apr 2014 #70

You'd be in a big debate here on DU treestar Apr 2014 #77

People here get angry when unarmed people are shot or brutalized by the police Crunchy Frog Apr 2014 #84

I didn't, I merely discussed the fact there are people treestar Apr 2014 #91

Been raised by a bully, I have Phlem Apr 2014 #79

How do you determine who the bullies were? nt ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #87

The usual standard is that they use violence and the threats thereof to achieve their extralegal aim riqster Apr 2014 #90

So both sides are bullies? nt ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #96

Oh, fuck no. riqster Apr 2014 #97

So if your threats of violence are legal, then you're not being a bully? ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #98

It's easy Puzzledtraveller Apr 2014 #99

Hey, that is pretty easy. nt ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #100

The feds should use pics and videos to identify the armed teabaggers and tblue37 Apr 2014 #93

Here's hoping. riqster Apr 2014 #95

Yes, teaparty supporters should be in jail randys1 Apr 2014 #101

Truth: riqster Apr 2014 #103

ACA Benghazi Fast/Furious Cattle Food Stamps etc randys1 Apr 2014 #104