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nadinbrzezinski

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63. From the description, I am betting on this being a good shooting

Mon Apr 14, 2014, 04:11 PM

Apr 2014

sorry. She rushed them with a weapon. Yes, a bat IS a weapon.

It is not yay cops, sounds more like yay a mental health system that once again failed.

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Santa Clara (CA) police kill bat-wielding woman [View all] KamaAina Apr 2014 OP

2 officers fearing for their safety against a 53 year old woman with an aluminum bat? Voice for Peace Apr 2014 #1

You're about to get a million responses about how dangerous bats are, and etc. alcibiades_mystery Apr 2014 #2

If she were attacking you with a bat you would have a right to defend yourself (with lethal force). LisaL Apr 2014 #4

Police are trained to deal with this kind of thing Beaverhausen Apr 2014 #5

This is the same argument I hear over and over again. LisaL Apr 2014 #7

Is the penalty for swinging a bat at someone death? Beaverhausen Apr 2014 #11

Do you regularly carry a firearm Aerows Apr 2014 #84

No such thing as "shoot to wound" with firearms. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2014 #14

Not pure Hollywood tazkcmo Apr 2014 #38

That's still not "shoot to wound." Lizzie Poppet Apr 2014 #66

What military was teaching that? sarisataka Apr 2014 #79

Do you carry a firearm Aerows Apr 2014 #85

I do sarisataka Apr 2014 #91

I do Aerows Apr 2014 #92

Good questions: sarisataka Apr 2014 #94

Yes to both. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2014 #100

You're half right... Hip_Flask Apr 2014 #15

Their training evidently says to shoot her. JVS Apr 2014 #93

Yours is one of the most silly posts I have read on DU in a long time. Jenoch Apr 2014 #95

There is no such thing as shooting to wound other than in the movies mythology Apr 2014 #98

Me and her are the same age tazkcmo Apr 2014 #8

Well it's too bad she didn't try to attack you then. LisaL Apr 2014 #9

I believe you. tazkcmo Apr 2014 #13

I am not saying it was their only option. LisaL Apr 2014 #16

Legal tazkcmo Apr 2014 #20

It might be legal to respond to my post with name calling, in a sense that you won't get arrested. LisaL Apr 2014 #36

Pretty sure the police tazkcmo Apr 2014 #43

That's not for you or I to determine. Chan790 Apr 2014 #99

As are most are. tazkcmo Apr 2014 #101

Oh, well Aerows Apr 2014 #47

'Get away with'? Are you suggesting police are serial killers? randome Apr 2014 #53

Have you ever held a bat before? Aerows Apr 2014 #71

Did they have tazers? Nightsticks? Were others nearby endangered? randome Apr 2014 #75

Oh for God's sake Randome Aerows Apr 2014 #78

For most tasers, don't you still need to be fairly close? randome Apr 2014 #17

Yes, but still well out of "bat's reach." Lizzie Poppet Apr 2014 #21

Maybe they didn't have any? randome Apr 2014 #23

Could be. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2014 #27

Don't know tazkcmo Apr 2014 #22

oh for the love of Gawd alcibiades_mystery Apr 2014 #10

Everyone keeps harping on '53'. That doesn't necessarily mean she was old and decrepit. randome Apr 2014 #18

lol tazkcmo Apr 2014 #24

In general, I think police SHOULD be in much better physical condition. randome Apr 2014 #26

It's the exception tazkcmo Apr 2014 #29

I would back away for a bit and go back to negotiating. How fucking hard is this? Ed Suspicious Apr 2014 #28

But but tazkcmo Apr 2014 #31

What is it do you think they should have negotiated about? LisaL Apr 2014 #61

Well, you could just walk away unless you are wheelchair bound. t ladjf Apr 2014 #102

Bats are so damn dangerous Aerows Apr 2014 #82

Shame on them agbdf Apr 2014 #77

one of the grandkids is SCPD. He's also a Buddhist OffWithTheirHeads Apr 2014 #3

Yay, Cops! Iggo Apr 2014 #6

+1 bravenak Apr 2014 #89

Who trained those guys? Yosemite Sam? Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #12

Alameda County Sheriff's Department Academy Brother Buzz Apr 2014 #19

That would explain a lot KamaAina Apr 2014 #42

One swing to the head with such a bat could kill, paralyze, Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #25

Ok tazkcmo Apr 2014 #30

Well, when someone is actually charging at you, swinging such a bat, Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #35

Have you ever been in a fight? I have been in my share as a youth, and I have never myself or known Ed Suspicious Apr 2014 #40

Were you using aluminum bats in these fights? LisaL Apr 2014 #45

If you use an aluminum bat Aerows Apr 2014 #76

Simple: Stay out of bat range. KamaAina Apr 2014 #33

So you are suggesting police are supposed to retreat when confronted with force? LisaL Apr 2014 #41

Uh, no, they could have circled around her. KamaAina Apr 2014 #44

So what if she charges at you and you don't have maneuvering room? randome Apr 2014 #58

What if she was charging you Aerows Apr 2014 #81

Are you saying they shouldn't? Ed Suspicious Apr 2014 #48

Are you suggesting they should have run away? LisaL Apr 2014 #52

Ask the BLM. They seem to have managed to defuse that much scarier situation. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2014 #54

Police lives are worth precisely how many civilian's? Ed Suspicious Apr 2014 #34

If somebody tries to attack you with a bat, then by all means take the risk. LisaL Apr 2014 #37

Wilting flower when faced with a bat finds strength of mind, body, and character to shoot aggressor Ed Suspicious Apr 2014 #46

"When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail." Aerows Apr 2014 #59

Well, she WANTED to be shot so you could say the police 'served her'. randome Apr 2014 #62

Did the police officer have a nightstick? Aerows Apr 2014 #49

Any one who is dumb enough to allow a person to just walk up and hit them on the ladjf Apr 2014 #103

Yes, Bats are potential dangerous fredamae Apr 2014 #32

The tranquilizer dart causing immediate sleep is also more of a Hollywood thing. Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #39

No Aerows Apr 2014 #51

I do prefer the British system, where police are not generally armed, Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #55

Do you live in Great Britain? n/t Aerows Apr 2014 #56

Connecticut (nt) Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #57

So you think a person with a bat Aerows Apr 2014 #65

Yeah, you got it. Have a good day. Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #70

Thanks, glad you realized Aerows Apr 2014 #73

Agreed sakabatou Apr 2014 #60

I certainly hope this PD has riot gear KamaAina Apr 2014 #50

From the description, I am betting on this being a good shooting nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #63

How many police actually have "bad shootings"? Nt Logical Apr 2014 #67

It happens. Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #74

Extremely rare. nt Logical Apr 2014 #80

I generally agree with you Aerows Apr 2014 #86

Well then I think we will disagree nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #87

Agree to disagree Aerows Apr 2014 #90

Good thing she didn't have a hockey stick - Spirochete Apr 2014 #64

She wanted suicide by cop cate94 Apr 2014 #68

This day will go down in history... randome Apr 2014 #69

That would be an interesting short film struggle4progress Apr 2014 #72

Where was the goddamned TASER Kelvin Mace Apr 2014 #83

She clearly wanted to die LittleBlue Apr 2014 #88

suicide by cop rollin74 Apr 2014 #96

Years ago I remember watching an episode yuiyoshida Apr 2014 #97

Woman attacks police with metal bat... JJChambers Apr 2014 #104

Naturally, this is front-page news in the San Jose paper KamaAina Apr 2014 #105

Yeah. Shocking.. 2banon Apr 2014 #106