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JustAnotherGen

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182. Black

Tue Apr 15, 2014, 08:58 AM

Apr 2014

Of mixed race heritage

There are things personally I relate to strictly as a black woman.

There are things that a woman with four black grandparents can't relate to - that are very specific to my european and yes - native ethnic background.

There are things as woman that are universal.

But while shopping or navigating America - straight up - I'm black.

Now when I used travel to Europe as a single woman - they don't know what I am - sometimes I'm Algerian, other times I go with Egyptian and when I was young and out and single and about I was Brazilian - but when we are talking love, romance, escapades and my favorite past time - Champagne Campaigns - with hot foreigners I was whatever got me on the back of the bike!

Now when I travel abroad - I married to some guy from Italy - so now I'm boring.

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What race do you think Barack Obama is? White, Black, Mixed Race, or something else? [View all] CreekDog Apr 2014 OP

Human race maddezmom Apr 2014 #1

Beat me to it sarisataka Apr 2014 #12

what has Obama called himself? CreekDog Apr 2014 #17

I look at people color blind sarisataka Apr 2014 #22

Okay, just googled after reading the controversy edited into the OP maddezmom Apr 2014 #31

thank you for that. and who would we be to disagree? CreekDog Apr 2014 #114

No disagreement from me maddezmom Apr 2014 #116

AMEN, Maddezmom....I agree. MOST black folks here in the Americas are a Melange Ecumenist Apr 2014 #134

According to some here, that makes you a racist. Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #46

why do you think Stephen Colbert's act includes "I'm colorblind" CreekDog Apr 2014 #64

I don't either, Nye and I've been mixed/black for most of my life. I'm sickened by people Ecumenist Apr 2014 #139

^^this^^ csziggy Apr 2014 #124

Nailed it!!!!!!! mfcorey1 Apr 2014 #144

YES, unless get the red out Apr 2014 #184

I know....saw this and now I am wondering maddezmom Apr 2014 #185

The only race there is-HUMAN n/t TexasProgresive Apr 2014 #2

are you saying that someone who calls themselves a memember of a race, that they are wrong? CreekDog Apr 2014 #6

Yes they are wrong. Science has proven there is only the one race...Human Bandit Apr 2014 #18

so Obama's wrong when he says he's black? CreekDog Apr 2014 #24

No he's not wrong oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #68

i was asking the other poster something specific about their observation CreekDog Apr 2014 #77

You're on a open forum and I will answer any question posed oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #86

would you like me to keep up? CreekDog Apr 2014 #100

This thread isn't going that well for you oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #108

not all concepts or ideas are easy to express or persuade on CreekDog Apr 2014 #111

no argument there oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #115

Is a collie a different species than a husky Bandit Apr 2014 #175

you're trying to say that being human and claiming a racial identity are mutually exclusive CreekDog Apr 2014 #178

The words "species" and "race" aren't interchangeable gollygee Apr 2014 #180

Agreed: race is a social construct, not a biological one. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2014 #190

Maybe you need to tell the Goverment that and every employer because they all ask for it oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #60

There Is Only One Race... The Human Race... We Invite The Knuckdraggers To Join... WillyT Apr 2014 #3

Go tell that to someone researching tay-sachs or sickle-cell. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2014 #11

We All Came Out Of Africa... WillyT Apr 2014 #16

Two points. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2014 #158

If that is the case then there should be only one box to check when applying for tuition , job etc.. oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #65

Not Yet... But Someday... When We Realize We Are All Brothers And Sisters... And Treat Each Other WillyT Apr 2014 #75

I couldn't agree more but until racism is Completely eliminated oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #82

I Wonder How Much Would Change If We Based Those Things On Socio-Economic Parameters... WillyT Apr 2014 #85

But how could that even be done when we still have deep seated racism due to skin color oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #96

Gotta Keep Trying... It IS The Ultimate Goal WillyT Apr 2014 #97

It will happen , just seeing how young children think compared to older folks is encouraging oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #99

Word !!! - And In A Way... That Speaks Well Of Some Of The Older Generations... WillyT Apr 2014 #119

we need to stop dividing ourselves and realize questionseverything Apr 2014 #202

Why do you bother? oldhippie Apr 2014 #4

As above: 99Forever Apr 2014 #5

yes, were you concerned I didn't know that? CreekDog Apr 2014 #8

You asked. 99Forever Apr 2014 #9

look at the OP again CreekDog Apr 2014 #13

No, you asked, I answered. 99Forever Apr 2014 #19

no, i asked you to look again because i updated the OP to provide context CreekDog Apr 2014 #23

Wrongo pal. 99Forever Apr 2014 #76

well you seem to be confused since there is no poll CreekDog Apr 2014 #78

"...since there is no poll." 99Forever Apr 2014 #167

I didn't post a DU poll in my OP CreekDog Apr 2014 #168

"The person you are responding to" is me. 99Forever Apr 2014 #170

there are a lot of replies, i thought yours was another when i responded CreekDog Apr 2014 #171

Thank you for proving, again... 99Forever Apr 2014 #172

i acknowledged my mistake CreekDog Apr 2014 #177

Whatever dude. 99Forever Apr 2014 #179

so you're telling me what i'm thinking? CreekDog Apr 2014 #181

black JI7 Apr 2014 #7

Every black person in America knew this would happen the second he and Michelle stood on that stage Number23 Apr 2014 #26

some will also use his mother being white to defend themselves when they JI7 Apr 2014 #39

The responses in this thread make me want to spontaneously weep and puke even more than usual Number23 Apr 2014 #89

I just love you JustAnotherGen Apr 2014 #176

It absolutely is. "Naive, childish bullshit" Number23 Apr 2014 #205

Bingo treestar Apr 2014 #128

+1 100% correct oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #71

Do you think that every black person is the same race? AngryAmish Apr 2014 #117

do you mean ethnicity ? JI7 Apr 2014 #118

For what purpose? Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2014 #10

does anybody read the body of the OP anymore? it wasn't that long CreekDog Apr 2014 #14

LOL !!! - I Feel Your Pain... And I Get What You're Saying... And You Are Correct... WillyT Apr 2014 #28

thanks! CreekDog Apr 2014 #30

LOL !!! - I Try To Get... The "Gist"... WillyT Apr 2014 #32

I disagree. You don't, lexicographers do. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2014 #157

are you saying that the racial category is a scientific/objective issue? CreekDog Apr 2014 #198

I read, and I corrected the incorrect assertion. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2014 #156

No, you're wrong, so much so you had to create a bogus example to try to prove otherwise CreekDog Apr 2014 #169

You asked what I think. Right? Then you say it's not what I think? immoderate Apr 2014 #15

yes, that's the point I was making CreekDog Apr 2014 #20

They used to have a thing -- if you have any drops of black in you, then you are black quinnox Apr 2014 #21

I view him as my Awesome President madokie Apr 2014 #25

I don't think it is true that less than a third view him as black Bjorn Against Apr 2014 #27

Exactly my complaint about that poll CreekDog Apr 2014 #37

I've heard him SevenSixtyTwo Apr 2014 #29

I had forgotten that song grasswire Apr 2014 #36

Yes, I've heard him identify as African-American, too. LuvNewcastle Apr 2014 #43

A human of mixed race. But here's the most important question, IMHO: AverageJoe90 Apr 2014 #33

A little bit of this and a little bit of that Puzzledtraveller Apr 2014 #34

black and mixed-race n/t Enrique Apr 2014 #35

I don't care. nt rrneck Apr 2014 #38

OMG everyone is Pollyanna about this WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2014 #40

High Elf chrisa Apr 2014 #41

Noldor, please. Maedhros Apr 2014 #45

President Barack Hussein Obama is a member of the HUMAN RACE. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #42

Careful many on here would disagree on principle! whistler162 Apr 2014 #105

IF he is NOT human, he is Kryptonian MohRokTah Apr 2014 #107

Aren't you straying dangerously close to the dreaded "colorblindess", Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #44

how is saying that whatever race he considers himself *is* his race, how is that colorblindness? CreekDog Apr 2014 #51

It is in fact racism Scootaloo Apr 2014 #63

Post removed Post removed Apr 2014 #47

Try that one again? Scootaloo Apr 2014 #59

Yeah, SevenSixtyTwo Apr 2014 #69

Thanks for the apology. elleng Apr 2014 #152

Race isn't a scientific concept, but people have the right to define themselves however they want struggle4progress Apr 2014 #48

+7,046,000,000 eom MohRokTah Apr 2014 #54

Best reply in thread! gollygee Apr 2014 #165

Thanks for providing the correct answer. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #49

Why does this even matter? yuiyoshida Apr 2014 #50

Exactly liberal N proud Apr 2014 #53

Is that like "the artist formerly known as..."? ForgoTheConsequence Apr 2014 #57

Someone looked at me the other day and asked me how yuiyoshida Apr 2014 #61

it matters because people are imposing their own definitions of race on others CreekDog Apr 2014 #66

I guess to me it doesn't matter... yuiyoshida Apr 2014 #72

i think you're confused. you think i asked about judging Obama based on his race. CreekDog Apr 2014 #74

No, I don't blame you for anything... yuiyoshida Apr 2014 #80

The reason it was his "dream" was because it wasn't happening and they were being judged Number23 Apr 2014 #84

Yup, and the same with Jackie Robinson... yuiyoshida Apr 2014 #90

I have no idea what your post means. Number23 Apr 2014 #91

Pehaps you can google yuiyoshida Apr 2014 #94

I still have no idea what your posts mean and judging by this post, I'm starting to think that Number23 Apr 2014 #95

no, the discussion isn't on what race the President is, it is on who should determine that CreekDog Apr 2014 #88

ah sou... yuiyoshida Apr 2014 #92

As a mother of a multi-racial child, I personally don't like lables. notadmblnd Apr 2014 #143

Yes. I appreciate what you've written. CreekDog Apr 2014 #145

black. race is a social construct, therefore his own ethnic identity trumps La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2014 #52

"belief in genetics"? redgreenandblue Apr 2014 #163

belief in racial genetics La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2014 #191

i agree, i'm sorry i didn't make that point more clearly CreekDog Apr 2014 #174

i was just rephrasing your point La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2014 #196

amen uponit7771 Apr 2014 #186

Irish. CJCRANE Apr 2014 #55

there's no one as Irish as Barack O'Bama treestar Apr 2014 #129

I'm still trying to figure out why pedestrians can't be more careful when they cross streets... NYC_SKP Apr 2014 #56

Human sakabatou Apr 2014 #58

I did a post about this a while ago. May have been the last time I bothered to create an OP in GD Number23 Apr 2014 #62

See my post #159 on the malleability of identity Hekate Apr 2014 #160

Whatever he decides on, I will go with. Rex Apr 2014 #67

Cablanasian. KamaAina Apr 2014 #70

Human? Crunchy Frog Apr 2014 #73

Human race. MineralMan Apr 2014 #79

if Obama says he's black do you correct him? CreekDog Apr 2014 #81

I do not believe that races exist. MineralMan Apr 2014 #83

Unfortunately, those "artificial, man-made distinctions" have profound social consequences... YoungDemCA Apr 2014 #132

but you refer to racial classifications in other posts CreekDog Apr 2014 #137

They exist as social constructs gollygee Apr 2014 #141

If they exist solely as social constructs then how do you explain the differences in disease Revanchist Apr 2014 #162

There are diseases that are prevalent primarily or completely in gollygee Apr 2014 #164

Does he say black race or just black? nt Edim Apr 2014 #109

The Indianapolis 500? kwassa Apr 2014 #87

If he was not President, and he was at the door ... JoePhilly Apr 2014 #93

Samoan Islandurp Apr 2014 #98

American! whistler162 Apr 2014 #101

I really don't fucking care Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2014 #102

He is a member of the human race. muntrv Apr 2014 #103

both qazplm Apr 2014 #104

He seems to appear to be a HUMAN.... Ecumenist Apr 2014 #106

i can't disagree CreekDog Apr 2014 #112

There is only ONE race.....Homo sapiens PERIOD. I read the post and I do NOT Ecumenist Apr 2014 #121

you're saying race is only a scientific term, and you'd be wrong CreekDog Apr 2014 #126

Well, I guess for racists, it isn't a scientific term. So, I guess I can grudgingly Ecumenist Apr 2014 #130

This message was self-deleted by its author CreekDog Apr 2014 #131

Ooh Ooh Ooh! Pick me! cherokeeprogressive Apr 2014 #110

Obama self-identifies as black shanti Apr 2014 #113

If he wasn't famous, and he got pulled over by the LAPD... Iggo Apr 2014 #120

+1 !! exactly lunasun Apr 2014 #138

My eyes have seldom rolled as much gollygee Apr 2014 #122

I agree CreekDog Apr 2014 #123

Race is a cultural construct. Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #125

Aren't we all? treestar Apr 2014 #127

I have heard right-wingers say "Congrats to America for electing its first half-white POTUS" YoungDemCA Apr 2014 #133

It's telling that a majority of white Americans think of him as "mixed race"... YoungDemCA Apr 2014 #135

One thing about the media that I've noticed when they speak about the President... PennsylvaniaMatt Apr 2014 #136

Both devils chaplain Apr 2014 #140

I don't give a shit to be honest but I am curious if the folks who say he is what he says he is TheKentuckian Apr 2014 #142

Who gives a fuck? n/t Skip Intro Apr 2014 #146

who gives a f---? well, many African Americans do, including this one: CreekDog Apr 2014 #149

Sorry, I don't sit around all day dwelling on what race the president is. Skip Intro Apr 2014 #150

well how would i know? CreekDog Apr 2014 #151

I like Cjeekdgg. NealK Apr 2014 #154

US perspective he is black flamingdem Apr 2014 #147

ILLUMINIZARD Warren DeMontague Apr 2014 #148

You fool! Orrex Apr 2014 #173

After that thing with the fly, I've always suspected. chrisa Apr 2014 #189

lol... penultimate Apr 2014 #214

He refers to himself as African American. NealK Apr 2014 #153

Genetically there is only one human race... uriel1972 Apr 2014 #155

Hapa-haole. Mahalo for asking. Hekate Apr 2014 #159

I'm kinda curious as to what other mixed race people tend to view him as. JoeyT Apr 2014 #161

Black JustAnotherGen Apr 2014 #182

I just love you! Number23 Apr 2014 #206

As Wanda Sykes would say . . . JustAnotherGen Apr 2014 #215

mixed race = black... still.... because this is America. He would be profiled in front of his house uponit7771 Apr 2014 #187

Mixed race but still black. Period! nt kelliekat44 Apr 2014 #166

+1 uponit7771 Apr 2014 #188

Is he still white, period? Nt Miguel Guate Apr 2014 #197

Personally, I Don't Care fredamae Apr 2014 #183

The Indianapolis 500? Lizzie Poppet Apr 2014 #192

Barack Obama said he was the Indianapolis 500? CreekDog Apr 2014 #195

Humor. Perhaps you've heard of it. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2014 #199

humor is easier to identify when it's funny CreekDog Apr 2014 #212

I've heard him describe himself as bi-racial. Sivafae Apr 2014 #193

I view him as mixed race. LexVegas Apr 2014 #194

Human. Blue_In_AK Apr 2014 #200

Half Dem/Half Oligarch? grahamhgreen Apr 2014 #201

The way things are today he is black. NCTraveler Apr 2014 #203

Mixed Glassunion Apr 2014 #204

YEP. And in fifty years most of us will look mixed. ancianita Apr 2014 #207

What do you think the OP's IQ is? idendoit Apr 2014 #208

This message was self-deleted by its author CreekDog Apr 2014 #209

ok bye CreekDog Apr 2014 #210

like me Lady Freedom Returns Apr 2014 #211

AMAZING!!! penultimate Apr 2014 #213