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In reply to the discussion: Eugene Robinson: "It’s all over but the shouting: Obamacare is working." [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)"You say lower premiums, but premiums are rising, not falling. I asked you in your other thread about Obama promising that rates would fall by $2500 for the typical family. He promised it repeatedly as did others. You didn't address that promise, or the conflict with the reality that rates are not falling but rising.
You link to your other thread promoting lower premiums under Obamacare, but the reality is that premiums are rising across the board, by large amounts in many instances. How do you reconcile that reality with your spin?"
...title of the OP provide any clues: "New York exceeds Obamacare enrollment expectations by 60 percent, premiums halved"
I posted this in the other thread about the CBO report that shows premiums will be lower than expected (which evidently isn't good enough for you and the red herring question you're keep asking.)
Health care costs grow every year. When growth is at the slowest pace in 50 years. That's a significant savings.
Still, even with that fact, premiums are lower than the status quo.
Most families/people are saving a lot more than $2,500 a year (the average subsidy is about $4,000). Premiums were nearly $12,000 per year for an individual plan. Millions of people are paying less than $100 per month. Million are paying nothing.
STUDY: Average Obamacare Plans Are Cheaper Than Employer-Sponsored Ones
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024415004

http://money.cnn.com/2013/07/17/news/economy/obamacare-health-insurance-new-york/
In fact, Obamacare isn't just lowering premiums, it's boosting incomes.
Obamacare boosting household income and spending
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024606074
Go ahead and complain about the links.