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pipoman

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45. For me guns are a constitutional issue that

Tue Apr 15, 2014, 12:25 PM

Apr 2014

Stirs the civil liberation in me, I own a couple and have no intention of getting more. The historical antiquities world is a 40 year passion for me. I have written numerous paid articles and interviews for several major antiquities publications. Am a certified expert in a couple of areas. I have acquired collections and curated a local museum and have taught classes on the subject. The effect of this ban will be enormous if the administration doesn't rethink it.

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U.S. ivory ban makes musician cancel Winnipeg audition (or, Musicians gunning for elephants?) [View all] The Straight Story Apr 2014 OP

New Ivory Sale Regulations Impacting Local Music Stores The Straight Story Apr 2014 #1

Thought there was an exemption on antiques ? dipsydoodle Apr 2014 #3

No, 100 years old pipoman Apr 2014 #5

Not too hard with banjos with serial numbers dipsydoodle Apr 2014 #6

A friend of mine pipoman Apr 2014 #9

Funny, I figured people paying huge sums of money for an instrument would want some way of DanTex Apr 2014 #20

Knowing the authenticity and proving it are not always the same thing. Jenoch Apr 2014 #58

This message was self-deleted by its author pipoman Apr 2014 #7

The exemption is largely theoretical. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2014 #15

Local Impacts to New Ivory Regulations The Straight Story Apr 2014 #2

This silliness really needs to be rethought pipoman Apr 2014 #4

Interesting that those pipoman Apr 2014 #8

Not surprising, though, given that the OP didn't mention the NRA, Jgarrick Apr 2014 #10

Seriously, you went THERE on a thread about ivory?!? catbyte Apr 2014 #13

Did you not see yesterday's ivory thread? It was all about the NRA. Jgarrick Apr 2014 #14

Here is the link Lonusca Apr 2014 #17

Umm ... btw Trajan Apr 2014 #68

Well, I'm not seeing much support outside of team NRA for the plight of those who DanTex Apr 2014 #22

Funny, I didn't see a single pipoman Apr 2014 #32

Actually, some environmental groups think the regulation doesn't go far enough. DanTex Apr 2014 #35

Apparently you are so blinded by NRA and gun hate you can pipoman Apr 2014 #39

Actually, I'm motivated by environmental concerns. DanTex Apr 2014 #40

For me guns are a constitutional issue that pipoman Apr 2014 #45

Fair enough. DanTex Apr 2014 #54

Surely he can weight it with something else. Fawke Em Apr 2014 #11

Why should he be forced to do so? It's an idiotic law. Jgarrick Apr 2014 #12

Umm, because elephants and rhinos are endangered... DanTex Apr 2014 #24

Because you don't kill an elephant over an overgrown fiddle. Fawke Em Apr 2014 #27

What about an elephant that's been dead nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #48

The flip side, of course, is that without some certification system, it's very easy DanTex Apr 2014 #60

Well how do I prove I inherited from my mom nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #62

I know nothing about dating ivory, you'll have to ask someone who knows. DanTex Apr 2014 #64

You are missing it. nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #66

The part about treating you like a "criminal" is certainly hyperbole. DanTex Apr 2014 #67

Have a good day. nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #69

New ones are... pipoman Apr 2014 #50

In case anyone is wondering why some DUers are opposed to protecting endangered species... DanTex Apr 2014 #16

LOL....ffs pipoman Apr 2014 #51

Not it's not about the guns. MicaelS Apr 2014 #53

Proving my point: yet another pro-gunner claiming it's not about the guns. DanTex Apr 2014 #57

"...these fantastic bows and instruments." Paladin Apr 2014 #18

See post 48 nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #52

They could always get new bows. Marrah_G Apr 2014 #19

For highly accomplished musicians the bow can be as important as the instrument. yellowcanine Apr 2014 #25

I thought I saw something about getting permits. Marrah_G Apr 2014 #29

See 48 nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #55

If real ivory is truly that critical a stringed instrument component,....... Paladin Apr 2014 #30

Show him some photos of slaughtered elephants, entire bodies left... joeybee12 Apr 2014 #21

There needs to be some kind of certificate system - if a musician can provide reasonable proof yellowcanine Apr 2014 #23

Certified antiques are exempt. DanTex Apr 2014 #26

Yes, but certifying bows is extremely hard nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #59

I don't know what you mean by "on purpose". DanTex Apr 2014 #61

It is the certification process nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #63

Well, hopefully they will streamline the certification process. DanTex Apr 2014 #65

A ban on ivory is a good thing. Inkfreak Apr 2014 #28

Favorite group: Gun Control & RKBA DanTex Apr 2014 #31

You're amusing. Inkfreak Apr 2014 #33

He can get a new bow to use outside the States. tammywammy Apr 2014 #34

It's illegal to import mother of pearl, too mainer Apr 2014 #43

Ahh, possibly. I never traveled outside the country with my cello. tammywammy Apr 2014 #46

He can only bring his "A game" with an ivory tipped bow? Ohio Joe Apr 2014 #36

The ivory is irrelevant to the bow's performance. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2014 #38

Absolutely true. Ivory isn't what makes a bow's performance. mainer Apr 2014 #42

Exactly Throd Apr 2014 #44

Just grandfather in existing items. Register existing items and problem solved. nt rrneck Apr 2014 #37

Probably not a bad idea. ..funding and pipoman Apr 2014 #41

That's true. rrneck Apr 2014 #56

Agreed if there is no cost to the owner. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #49

They're probably worried about the government goon-thugs goin' all Gibson Guitars on them Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #47