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freshwest

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19. Thanks, ProSense. Anecdotally, people here seem to be spending a lot more for medical, but it's not
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 12:29 PM
Apr 2014
from higher rates. They are paying more because they are signing up for better coverage than they had before. There is true competition now, and the ball is in the buyer's corner, not the seller with the sharecropper plans with all control in the hands of the powerful half of the contract, not the worker.

They are getting more services for less, and many have not been getting the level of care now afforded them, and getting more health issues taken care of and faster than before.

There is an increase of people going to the doctors, because they are able to afford it, and the volume is taking care of the providers as well. People are feeling more freedom to get care and improve their health which benefits all of us as they become more able to stay independent, take care of family members or work. More are healthy enough to do volunteer work that they were unable to do before.

The primary legacy of the ACA that strikes at the for profit model is that there are no denials for pre existing conditions. This is a game changer that is not being credited. People are now expecting more than they ever did, and getting it. This is going to become second nature now, the recognition that illness is not a moral defect or something to be punished by high rates. I think people should look at what they are being offered, and make use of it.

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Yes! Your news is Great! sheshe2 Apr 2014 #1
They will come around. JDPriestly Apr 2014 #3
Great add. freshwest Apr 2014 #4
Thanks freshwest. sheshe2 Apr 2014 #5
"They lie and people die" Iliyah Apr 2014 #2
You say lower premiums, but premiums are rising, not falling. Skip Intro Apr 2014 #6
Does the ProSense Apr 2014 #8
Reuters: CBO sees relatively modest premium hikes for Obamacare benchmark plan" (April 14, 2014) Miguel Guate Apr 2014 #9
Yes - clearly we should scrap Obamacare and get no increases. Well argued. nt el_bryanto Apr 2014 #10
One can support Obamacare while not falsely stating premiums are decreasing Miguel Guate Apr 2014 #11
Wait a second - wasn't your argument that they aren't decreasing as much? el_bryanto Apr 2014 #12
I'm arguing what the CBO said Miguel Guate Apr 2014 #14
One can ProSense Apr 2014 #13
Are you saying that the CBO said premiums have gone down relative to last year? Miguel Guate Apr 2014 #16
No, ProSense Apr 2014 #17
Please explain the graphic RandoLoodie Apr 2014 #20
The chart ProSense Apr 2014 #22
What annual income gets you a $359 a month silver plan? RandoLoodie Apr 2014 #24
Please ProSense Apr 2014 #25
I asked you specific questions RandoLoodie Apr 2014 #26
Hey, ProSense Apr 2014 #28
Uh huh RandoLoodie Apr 2014 #29
"Uh huh" ProSense Apr 2014 #30
Still trying to figure out RandoLoodie Apr 2014 #31
Again, ProSense Apr 2014 #32
slicker than a wet lizard RandoLoodie Apr 2014 #33
More familiar than a zombie. ProSense Apr 2014 #34
on lunch break now RandoLoodie Apr 2014 #35
Well, enjoy reading the articles. ProSense Apr 2014 #36
I was just thinking the same thing about you RandoLoodie Apr 2014 #37
Links ProSense Apr 2014 #38
played out RandoLoodie Apr 2014 #39
"Anyone can read a newspaper. " ProSense Apr 2014 #40
A dog is not an orange RandoLoodie Apr 2014 #41
Thanks, ProSense. Anecdotally, people here seem to be spending a lot more for medical, but it's not freshwest Apr 2014 #19
You're welcome. ProSense Apr 2014 #42
hope is on the rise oasis Apr 2014 #7
Mr. Robinson, I must respectfully disagree with you about one thing: Brigid Apr 2014 #15
That is ProSense Apr 2014 #18
Perhaps you should re-read the column, if you even read it the 1st time, and try & comprehend the... Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #45
I read the freakin' column. Brigid Apr 2014 #46
So now reading comprehension = silence? Well alrighty then. And best of luck to ya? Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #47
Welcome to my ignore list. Brigid Apr 2014 #48
Judging from your initial response in this thread, I don't think I'll be missing much. I'll try &.. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #49
perfect hfojvt Apr 2014 #21
Still working on transitioning to single payer, thanks! grahamhgreen Apr 2014 #23
There'd been LOTS of shouting right here on Democratic Underground, too. BlueCaliDem Apr 2014 #27
The perpetually disgruntled. Pirate Smile Apr 2014 #43
K&R Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #44
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